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EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:06 pm
by Taz
Been wanting to do this for a while, and now that they are off the car and can be taken to someone im interested to see if anyone is keen on getting some fender braces if i got a few sets fabbed up.
The ones i have are original J-speed fender braces, which can be landed from Japan for about $250 each. Im hoping to be able to get sets made up for about 100, if not less.
They bolt straight up to an FTO, and can be done by anyone they are that simple. They mount to the lower door hinge bolts and a pre-existing hole just under the fender (as pictured)
I cannot say on the improvement people can expect as im the only FTO that i know of with them. however if it counts for anything my GPR handled like a dream. (coupled with thicker sway bars/coilovers/strut braces etc)

Here are a few pics of them on:
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And a few pics of them off:
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@ the people who would know this kind of thing (dwayne/bennoz etc) what would it be like to reproduce these? Would 100 for a set be realistic if enough got in on it? What kind of place would i take it to to have multiple sets fabbed up the cheapest?

Lastly, if this did pick up and sets could be made for a reasonable price, who would be interested?

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:26 pm
by vipfto
price for that would be very good but and any engineering shop should be able to replicate price will depend on materials used as should be a simple enough design to replicate.

But in all fairness more bracing on the front will provoke more understeer esp when coupled with upper and lower braces, for more nuetral handling look at thicker rear swaybar and upper/lower bracing to try and create some over steer. But guess it all depends on how people drive and wish there car to behave.....

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:37 pm
by Taz
Wouldnt that be ideal then? FWD's tend to oversteer, so balancing it out with something like fender braces will even it out a bit? They certainly wont change it from oversteer to understeer by themselves ?

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:37 pm
by Taz
Wouldnt that be ideal then? FWD's tend to oversteer, so balancing it out with something like fender braces will even it out a bit? They certainly wont change it from oversteer to understeer by themselves ?

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:37 pm
by Taz
Wouldnt that be ideal then? FWD's tend to oversteer, so balancing it out with something like fender braces will even it out a bit? They certainly wont change it from oversteer to understeer by themselves ?

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:41 pm
by Daniel2019
Taz wrote:Wouldnt that be ideal then? FWD's tend to oversteer
This is new to me..? Wtf are you on about :lol:

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:43 pm
by Daniel2019
Seriously what the f**k :lol:

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:45 pm
by vipfto
Na fwd tend to understerr stiffer front end will provoke it more.

Understeer = front wants to keep going straight into corner

Oversteer = rear wants to flick out

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:16 pm
by kiz
vipfto wrote:Na fwd tend to understerr stiffer front end will provoke it more.

Understeer = front wants to keep going straight into corner

Oversteer = rear wants to flick out
Taz obviously didn't see the latest episode of Top Gear where Jeremy goes on about the Toyota 86/Suburu BRZ :roll:

He spends a good amount of time describing understeer/oversteer

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:19 pm
by vipfto
Hmmm neither did I lol

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:39 pm
by kiz
vipfto wrote:Hmmm neither did I lol

The repeat was on tonight :roll:

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:41 pm
by shadowarrior
yep, fwd understeers and rwd oversteers.

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:44 pm
by kiz
This isn't the one I was referring too but still explains it... sort of...


Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:48 pm
by Taz
:?
i know what understeer and oversteer is, i just mixed up fwd and rwd :slap:
EITHER WAY i had them, and my car handled perfectly
can we get back on track and see if anyone is interested?
or should i just bolt the last one up to maverick (as once theyre bolted up theyre bloody hard to get get back out

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:57 pm
by vipfto
Well as said originally depends on costing and what people want I guess

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:24 am
by Nacho
Yeah I'm down depending on the cost. With the chassis at 327k km anything that stiffens would help.

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:25 am
by Daniel2019
Nacho wrote:Yeah I'm down depending on the cost. With the chassis at 327k km anything that stiffens would help.
Just keep a hot chick in your garage and make her stand in front of it for a little while before you drive it.

Or is it too old even for that to work? :lol:

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:09 pm
by silverGPX
Where's the $250 new ones?

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:28 pm
by Nacho
Daniel2019 wrote:
Nacho wrote:Yeah I'm down depending on the cost. With the chassis at 327k km anything that stiffens would help.
Just keep a hot chick in your garage and make her stand in front of it for a little while before you drive it.

Or is it too old even for that to work? :lol:
Or I could just have the Top Gear chick drive it like when you can tell she was wet in her review clip on the FTO

http://ftoaustralia.com/v3/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=27771

Re: EOI: Fender brace group buy

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:08 pm
by Taz
So.....

1) Nacho



Im not sure if there will be a minimum to be made up, it will probably affect the price but i will try and get some made up even if it is only for 1-2 people.
Surprised no one else is even interested..