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Ok so the time has come to rebuild the engine that I have.. MIVEC 6A12..

I have been quoted about $1500 for all the outsourced block and head work.

What else am I going to need exactly?

So far I need, obviously, all gaskets and seals, plus belts and general service stuff like sparks and oil and such.

Timing belt kit - $134 Camskill
All gaskets and seals - $85 fleabay OR Camskill $248 (difference?)
Oil/sparks/coolant etc. - Around $200 through work
Piston rings - $208 Camskill (I'm just cleaning up the old pistons as long as the cylinders dont have to be bored out)
Spark plug seals - $112 Camskill

What else is going to be needed? (Please pardon me if I've missed something obvious )

Also - does the MIVEC and non mivec share the same engine mounts?

Cheers

Mounts should be the same for mivec/non mivec. Auto/manual are different though

dstocks wrote:Mounts should be the same for mivec/non mivec. Auto/manual are different though

Ah. Should be fine then

Cheers

You'll need a flywheel

Sahin wrote:You'll need a flywheel

Hahahahaha!

I have one though!

Didn't see you mention all the bearings (rod, main, thrust).
These come in different sizes so you may need to order them later down the track after your crank etc has been measured and you check the stamp inside the block

spetz wrote:Didn't see you mention all the bearings (rod, main, thrust).
These come in different sizes so you may need to order them later down the track after your crank etc has been measured and you check the stamp inside the block

Or take the old ones to a bearing shop and go I need all these new what I did

I think Mitsubishi has different thickness bearings though which you need to get the right parts for.
Did everything work out when you took the old ones to the shop?


Anyone know whether it's better to go for ACL race bearings or OEM Mitsubishi?
I've read that Honda people generally prefer OEM over ACL

Yep all was good had no problems doing any of the rebuild

Did you take the crank in with the bearings to get measured?
Did you do the rebuild yourself?

Not sure about the crank I don't think I did and yep I did exactly what Daniel is doin all my self oh and dad lol and the block heads where done professionally

I'll contact the guys at C&B about getting the blocks done.

fraz91 wrote:I'll contact the guys at C&B about getting the blocks done.

Sweet thanks man. I will also go and see the blokes up at Duncan Foster when I get the chance cause Ill get a discount through work I think.

Daniel2019 wrote:

fraz91 wrote:I'll contact the guys at C&B about getting the blocks done.

Sweet thanks man. I will also go and see the blokes up at Duncan Foster when I get the chance cause Ill get a discount through work I think.

Already claiming work contacts I like it

Is there a kit for all the bearings? Cant find it through camskill.

Daniel2019 wrote:Is there a kit for all the bearings? Cant find it through camskill.

The bearings will be different for every single engine. You need to get the crank mic'ed, linished, then measured. Then you'll know if you need +5 thou, +10 thou, +20 thou etc.

Bennoz wrote:

Daniel2019 wrote:Is there a kit for all the bearings? Cant find it through camskill.

The bearings will be different for every single engine. You need to get the crank mic'ed, linished, then measured. Then you'll know if you need +5 thou, +10 thou, +20 thou etc.

Ah. Cheers ben.

Ok so now that the silver fto is gone its time to get cracking on this.

So far, my parts list consists of:

Timing belt kit and water pump
All gaskets and seals
Piston rings
Rod, main, thrust bearings
Standard stuff i.e. Oil/sparks/coolant/leads etc.

What else am I missing?

What should I be asking the shop to do in terms of head and block work (should I be getting them to do any work on valve stems or something?)

Should I get a port and polish done? If so, on what exactly?

Sorry for n00bness, I'm just trying to make sure I get it right the first time

This looks interesting........are you blueprinting your engine?

I know this might be a sh*tty addition to the budget but while you have it open perhaps you can drop in some forged components? And maybe stronger heavy duty seals?

This will give you the option in future to turbo without having to worry too much about internals

Nacho wrote:This looks interesting........are you blueprinting your engine?

I know this might be a sh*tty addition to the budget but while you have it open perhaps you can drop in some forged components? And maybe stronger heavy duty seals?

This will give you the option in future to turbo without having to worry too much about internals

For that kind of coin I would be doing a 6A13 conversion.

Basic answer is no and no. I'm going to be keeping this internally stock (aside from a port and polish if I have the money) because if I was going to start spending hefty amounts of money on mods I may as well just do a 6A13 conversion and gain twice the power.