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Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:45 pm
by brent88
Hey, my front tyres are wearing heaps on the outside and they have on every car i've ever owned. Obviously this is due to hard cornering. Is there a setup for camber or toe in/toe out that would be street friendly given my driving style? Can i do it myself so when my tyres wear to much on the inside i can also adjust myself?

Btw i mainly drive 15 mins 12 times a week, 30 mins twice a week and hours once every month so tyres probably dont get to hot.

Thanx

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:29 pm
by koolio1234
you'll need some pillow ball mounts and camber adjustment bolts to have a play with the camber. Run 1.5-2 degrees of negative camber up front and maybe around 1-1.5 in the rear and you'll be sweet.

Also make sure to keep your checking your tyre pressure regularly to make sure the wearing isn't from poorly inflated tyres. If you have low profile tyres you should be running around 36-38 psi

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:52 pm
by brent88
i run 40 on the rear and 38 on front,

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-FTO-9 ... 2c56f0d17a

^^^^^this???^^^^^ do u think this will help? also going to take my car to wintonagain at end of year just for fun day so itl b hot probably. i want a compramise between track and street but how hard is it to adjust these bolts and install them? i guess just jack the car up and there hopefully in an easy place to get at yeah?

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:52 pm
by brent88
and do these bolts do front and rear?

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:45 pm
by silverGPX
Ive heard camber bolts loosen up over bumps and change their adjustment. not sure though.

Have a look at K-Mac camber tops, you can do camber and castor on them.

And also rears have adjustment already, on the rear you can adjust toe and camber and the fronts only have toe adjustment.

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:47 pm
by silverGPX
Wear is 95% of the time tyres get worn because the toe is out, camber wear takes a long time unless your running like -6 or something crazy and skidding up.

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:42 pm
by Bennoz
Good f**king god, $70 bucks for 2 camber pins? There's an Ebay transaction you'll be walking away from with a limp.
Call Whiteline & find your local distributor, they also don't have to be 'FTO specific' - just give em the length & diametre you need.

They are only for the front. The rear has camber adjustment by default. Its the 2 adjuster bolts up under the rear muffler.

I've had these ones on the front & they did move around, however in the end, I locktite'ed the bastards in & they stayed put.
Shane uses them on his race car thou & they've never moved.

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:55 am
by brent88
my fto handles a lot better now that i got new sway bar bushes, made heaps of difference (roundabouts sure are fun several times in the early hours of the morn), those $50 ones off ebay. i guess being that my old ones were screwed and 2 of em were half out because i couldent get them off 1 opther time(had 2 nuts on the half undone ones so they wouldent slip off).

had to angle grind 1 of those swaybar links off, tryed a crowbar, jimmybar and heaps of pipes but it the nut wouldent come loose and the ball kept spinning (mivec)

may adjust the rear for now 1 day and see what i think and how it affects tyre wear, would a tyre place do this in a wheel alignment in the price? i know u cant balance the wheels yourself without the machine but can u so the rest of the stuff they do in a wheel alignment yourself?

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:27 am
by Bennoz
I wouldn't try it at home. When you adjust the rear camber, that alters the toe settings without knowing it.
The more neg camber you give it, the more toe in you'll add.

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:03 pm
by brent88
hmmm might forget about it for a while.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT
thats a link to the rear sway bar bushes if anyone's interested, there a tiny bit thicker but maybe a little bit lighter and they have a 17mm nut on the end insted of factory 14mm, also have another nut u can get a spanner onto to tighten and loosen nut.

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:37 pm
by brent88
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Front-Strut-Brac ... 3a5ec9cb20

^^^^would this be a waste of time and money? i dont need something serious, it dosent look very strong but i have messaged other ebay users that out it on their fto and there happy with it, thoughts?

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:43 pm
by brent88
i think the strut bace will solve the tyre wear problems as the body wont flex inward at the front as much

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:17 pm
by payaya
Bennoz wrote:Good f**king god, $70 bucks for 2 camber pins? There's an Ebay transaction you'll be walking away from with a limp.
Call Whiteline & find your local distributor, they also don't have to be 'FTO specific' - just give em the length & diametre you need.

They are only for the front. The rear has camber adjustment by default. Its the 2 adjuster bolts up under the rear muffler.

I've had these ones on the front & they did move around, however in the end, I locktite'ed the bastards in & they stayed put.
Shane uses them on his race car thou & they've never moved.
Do you have the dimensions??? 12mm is coming to mind for some reason. 60-70 seems to be the average cost for 2 pins? What should it cost?

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:30 pm
by payaya
brent88 wrote:i think the strut bace will solve the tyre wear problems as the body wont flex inward at the front as much
All cars wear on the outer edges first as when you turn a corner the wheel will lean in the opposite direction causing wear.

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:08 am
by brent88
yeah i know, wanna reduce this though because its really bad and their only new tyres

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:01 am
by silverGPX
well then theres obviously a problem. your out of alignment.

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:30 am
by brent88
steeting wheel stays dead straight and dosent even shudder the slightest and the wheels and tyres are only a couple of months old

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:34 am
by silverGPX
doesnt matter if it stays straight. ive lowered my car, had new tyres and havent gotten an alignment and i def know its out and it stays straight

Re: Tyres wearing heaps on outside, camber adjustment?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:53 am
by brent88
hmmm might be worth looking into, i think ill lower it first though, i remember last time i got an alignment theres like a $50 and a$70 job depending on how many things are adjustable, what 1 is the fto?