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Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:42 pm
by Sweep
Whilst removing the plenum to change the plugs & filter I heard somthing drop, couldant find what had dropped. Changed the plugs and filter put it back together started her up and you can hear the washer bouncing around between the top of the piston & the head.
must of dropped down one of the open ports before i covered them up.
I do not want to start it again as it seems the washer is just sitting on top of one of the pistons and I do not want to risk damaging the pistons.
My mechanical knowledge was stretched doing the plugs & filter so I would have no chance fixing it.
Havent found miself a job yet after moving from sydney to Qld so carnt afford to pay a mechanic to do it for me and I was useing the fto as transport.
I knew somthing had to go wrong sooner or later as I was really loving the fto. Thats the end of my sob story, not sure what to do now.

Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:52 pm
by I8A4RE
Dude that sucks man. Your gonna have to pull the head off and hope no damage has been done
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:17 pm
by Kustom
Oh dude that sucks.
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:31 pm
by Sweep
I pulled the plugs out of the first bank and one of the plugs is damaged you can see where the washer has hit it so atleast I know where it is and I do not have to toutch the rear bank.
I have no choice but to try to tackle this myself.
I was hopeing someone maybe able to help me out with a step by step guide for dummies

on how to pull off the head and any gaskets or anything like that I may need?
Still gutted but I am seeing light at the end now.
thanks
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:34 pm
by Bennoz
Thats no good at all mate.
How long did you have it running for with it in there? Any more than a couple of minutes can be terminal.
Before you go trying to pull the head off, remove the intake manifold & go buy on of those bendy magnetic wands. The only way to get it out will be down the intake hole where it fell in... and hope that its not currently wedged under a valve.
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:45 pm
by Sweep
I had the motor running for five seconds max on two seprate times I did not hear any crunching just the washer bouncing around.
I could barely get a thin wire down the intake so not sure how id go with the flexy magnet thingy, I do have one here but its heaps to big to fit down.
So I recon all I can do is head off!
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:46 pm
by I8A4RE
Yeah but even if you are lucky enough to get the washer out there will definitly be more damage.
What type of car you got?
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:51 pm
by Sweep
Hi simon Its a 95 gpx tip
I carnt belive im such a Dick. And I was really looking forward to cutting my fuel filter up, I recon it would be a good one the fuel inside was real dirty

Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:58 pm
by Kustom
Easily done mate don't be so hard on yourself.
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:01 pm
by spency
Ouch
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:38 pm
by Sweep
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:32 pm
by payaya
Try one of those auto magnets down the plug hole??
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:34 pm
by Kustom
payaya wrote:Try one of those auto magnets down the plug hole??
Bennoz wrote:
Before you go trying to pull the head off, remove the intake manifold & go buy on of those bendy magnetic wands. The only way to get it out will be down the intake hole where it fell in... and hope that its not currently wedged under a valve.
Sweep wrote:I could barely get a thin wire down the intake so not sure how id go with the flexy magnet thingy, I do have one here but its heaps to big to fit down.
So I recon all I can do is head off!
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:08 pm
by payaya
Spark plug hole not intake holes.
Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:40 pm
by Sweep
Yea ive been trying that, only trouble is the washer is larger than the plug hole

Re: Gutted
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:47 pm
by vipfto
ok you need to remove rocker cover also
from there also remove bottom part of plenum and you should be able to down ports where valves sit and maybe remove washer from there
faiing that try removeing headers and you may be able to get it out that way.
Just hope you havent done any damage like bent valve etc
Re: Gutted
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:17 am
by Sweep
vipfto wrote:ok you need to remove rocker cover also
from there also remove bottom part of plenum and you should be able to down ports where valves sit and maybe remove washer from there
faiing that try removeing headers and you may be able to get it out that way.
Just hope you havent done any damage like bent valve etc
Ok ive been onto this since 6am I have a quick question how is the removal of the rocker cover going to help sorry noob question?
I removed the injectors and the lower plenum

only trouble is that the vaulves are pretty much closed is their any way of opening these manually? Or should I go onto removing the headers but im probably going to run into the same problem their?
Thanks
ps the valves look straight
Re: Gutted
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:55 am
by Sweep
On further inspection it looks like the valves are in the down position, open and I cannot get to it and when they come up the close off.
It looks like its going to be the same issue if i go in through the manifolds.
Ive got no chance of taking the head off looking at the timming belt which also needs to come off I have no clue, Im going to end up screwing things up if continue.
So I recon I have two choices let it sit their until I can afford to pay a mechanic to repair which could cost a couple of grand, or sell it off cheap like it is and buy myself a cheap run about.
No good

Re: Gutted
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:35 am
by Kustom

not good news mate.
So, simon... diy week on sweeps car. Full engine rebuild

kgo.
Re: Gutted
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:05 am
by Sweep
Kustom_FTO wrote:
not good news mate.
So, simon... diy week on sweeps car. Full engine rebuild

kgo.
lol Im sure I would be able to scrape up for some cash to put towards the boat fund
Its just such a shame I have no local mechanics around here who would even consider working on a import.
Everyone ive spoken to keeps on telling me to buy a different car
