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Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:56 pm
by fraz91
Okay... so while sitting in my Engineering Practice and Preview lecture, it dawned on me that in about 5 or 6 years, i'll be able to sign off on engineers certificates for cars (hopefully)...
so, was wondering the feasibility of shoe-horning an HSV LS7 V8 (possibly supercharged) into an FTO and converting it to RWD only...
I know there's a company that send out conversion kits for the Mazda MX5/Miata to get a chevy LS2 (i think thats it... pretty sure its the 5.7L) into one of those...
SO... my main questions are:
Would it be feasible?
(Roughly) How much would it cost?
Is it worth doing if the above criteria are met?
any input would be awesome guys, thanks

Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:08 pm
by aza013
fraz91 wrote:
SO... my main questions are:
Would it be feasible?
(Roughly) How much would it cost?
Is it worth doing if the above criteria are met?
any input would be awesome guys, thanks

Well over all I think it would be cheeper to just get the HSV

As for would it be feasible maybe, maybe not. It comes down to what you will use the car for after you do it, That is if you do and can do it that is!
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:10 pm
by fraz91
it would be mainly for showboating and racing... (maybe a couple of sponsors to help?)
how much bigger than the FTO's engine bay is that of the Miata... because you can fit an LS7 in one of them and if they're similar size then (technically) it would be possible... there is the problem of the trans-tunnel though

Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:32 pm
by Astron_Boy
Can you bring some of whatever it was you were smoking when you made this post to the DIY day?
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:37 pm
by fraz91
Astron_Boy wrote:Can you bring some of whatever it was you were smoking when you made this post to the DIY day?
i wasn't smoking... i was in a lecture and was REALLY bored...
that, and i dont think i can make the DIY day sadly... might come after family stuff
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:39 pm
by Astron_Boy
drinking, injecting, etc.
just mail it to me
personally, I think you'd have an easier time slotting in a 13B *waits for the flaming bottles of booze to fly my way*
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:46 pm
by Tippin
only one way it can work, which is full custom drivetrain... u cant put a HSV rwd drivetrain in a FTO
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:47 pm
by fraz91
Astron_Boy wrote:drinking, injecting, etc.
just mail it to me
personally, I think you'd have an easier time slotting in a 13B *waits for the flaming bottles of booze to fly my way*
*throws molatov's*
i said V8 because i dont want to wait for my power... i want more power and i want it before i put my foot down

Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:34 pm
by Astron_Boy
Tippin wrote:you cant put a HSV rwd drivetrain in a FTO
you're not throwing enough money at it then!
best conversions for FTOs
4g63, evo 5+
6g74, diamante
6g75, 380
6a13tt, e5 series
6a12tt, hj series
anything more and you're seriously wasting funds and hand skin.
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:48 am
by MH999
Astron_Boy wrote:Tippin wrote:you cant put a HSV rwd drivetrain in a FTO
you're not throwing enough money at it then!
best conversions for FTOs
4g63, evo 5+
6g74, diamante
6g75, 380
6a13tt, e5 series
6a12tt, hj series
anything more and you're seriously wasting funds and hand skin.
You forgot the 6g75 tt from the gto.
@franz91 seriously dude dont bother with a v8 in a fto ,why dont you sell it and buy a supra and put a 1uzfe v8 and twin turbocharge it.
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:56 am
by Lawso
he has a triton
no fto for frazer

Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:31 am
by koolio1234
As always, its feasible but highly difficult due to the custom work required becoming an ever-growing pit you'll be throwing your money in.
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:01 am
by I8A4RE
MH999 wrote:Astron_Boy wrote:Tippin wrote:you cant put a HSV rwd drivetrain in a FTO
you're not throwing enough money at it then!
best conversions for FTOs
4g63, evo 5+
6g74, diamante
6g75, 380
6a13tt, e5 series
6a12tt, hj series
anything more and you're seriously wasting funds and hand skin.
You forgot the 6g75 tt from the gto.
@franz91 seriously dude dont bother with a v8 in a fto ,why dont you sell it and buy a supra and put a 1uzfe v8 and twin turbocharge it.
No hes not. He said BEST conversion not POSSIBLE.
The 6g75 is a heavy pig and shoe horning into a fto engine bay would a nightmare and a waste ot time and money, when you can easily slot a 4g63 in
Fraz, it is definitly possible HOWEVER it would cost nothing short of 30K. My guess would be more like 50k mark.
If you have that sort of money we can talk further if not thread locked lol
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:03 am
by Bennoz
fraz91 wrote:i said V8 because i dont want to wait for my power... i want more power and i want it before i put my foot down

Come for a ride in my car. Just try not to leave any skid marks on the seat!
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:12 pm
by Astron_Boy
Bennoz wrote:fraz91 wrote:i said V8 because i dont want to wait for my power... i want more power and i want it before i put my foot down

Come for a ride in my car. Just try not to leave any skid marks on the seat!
Yeah, only skid marks go on the road!
Meanwhile ben, I'm bringing my wagon on the weekend, you own a long closed road yeah?

Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:40 pm
by MH999
I8A4RE wrote:MH999 wrote:Astron_Boy wrote:Tippin wrote:you cant put a HSV rwd drivetrain in a FTO
you're not throwing enough money at it then!
best conversions for FTOs
4g63, evo 5+
6g74, diamante
6g75, 380
6a13tt, e5 series
6a12tt, hj series
anything more and you're seriously wasting funds and hand skin.
You forgot the 6g75 tt from the gto.
@franz91 seriously dude dont bother with a v8 in a fto ,why dont you sell it and buy a supra and put a 1uzfe v8 and twin turbocharge it.
No hes not. He said BEST conversion not POSSIBLE.
The 6g75 is a heavy pig and shoe horning into a fto engine bay would a nightmare and a waste ot time and money, when you can easily slot a 4g63 in
Fraz, it is definitly possible HOWEVER it would cost nothing short of 30K. My guess would be more like 50k mark.
If you have that sort of money we can talk further if not thread locked lol
Well ok then but on his list he put 6g75 380 , i dont see a 3.8ltr v6 fitting in a fto engine bay.
Fraz the rwd conversion is possible but you would have to cut up the firewall for the 5.7,however width wise i dunno.A 4lt lexus v8 would be a better option.
I have seen a modified st185 celica with rwd and this motor on youtube .
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:38 pm
by Astron_Boy
it is possible to 'shoehorn' in the 6g75
whether the Eclipse is a wider engine bay I know it's a slighly wider car in general.
But I do know of 3kgt motors going into those, and they are next to the same motor...
Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:15 am
by SG
fraz91 wrote:Okay... so while sitting in my Engineering Practice and Preview lecture, it dawned on me that in about 5 or 6 years, i'll be able to sign off on engineers certificates for cars (hopefully)...
so, was wondering the feasibility of shoe-horning an HSV LS7 V8 (possibly supercharged) into an FTO and converting it to RWD only...
I know there's a company that send out conversion kits for the Mazda MX5/Miata to get a chevy LS2 (i think thats it... pretty sure its the 5.7L) into one of those...
SO... my main questions are:
Would it be feasible?
(Roughly) How much would it cost?
Is it worth doing if the above criteria are met?
any input would be awesome guys, thanks

It sounds like you could almost answer allllll of your own questions for feasability being an engineering student or at least interested in it whether you can/cant answer it at the moment. If Mx5 gear is small enough and the ls2 fits in a mx5 i cant see why it wont roughly fit in a fto. But i dont know all the fine details...Although i can't see how much finer details would cost, but i don't think they go up equaly in bulls**t with imagination and...great happiness for power.
You've got or will have an engineering cert... you need one of those if you're welding rear floor pans, which you'll need for a rear diff... if you can weld you've saved a bit of money there, and with the cert labour...

Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:19 pm
by KJ_bob
Three things:
1. I don't think you can certify your own stuff
2. You’re under estimating the process as to how one gains the qualifications to certify vehicle re-engineering (its not just about getting the degree)
3. If you manage to get through the above then you will realise that in certifying something, you are putting your name to it. And its not just a matter of an engineer taking your car for a flick, they have stringent processes about which they check the work... so if you cut corners to pass your own work, you will be risking your job and livelihood if anything was to go wrong latter down the track.
I guess what im trying to say here is, once you’ve gone through a five year degree and a couple of years of working as a graduate engineer, you will probably end up having too go about adr approving the same way as everyone else. But maybe if you can make some friends in the right places you can get it done cheaper... but the workmanship will still have to be there.
Reference: I’ve been looking into this for a long time

Re: Supercharged LS7 in an FTO
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:01 pm
by Kustom
He does have a valid point.