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Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stalling

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:31 pm
by Jezza
Hey guys - car is a 95 fto manual gpx (115,000kms)

About 2 months ago a high pitched sound started coming from the engine bay every time I put my foot on the clutch to change gears. It was not present at any other time. I did some reading on the site, and assumed it was the thrust brace for the clutch, and although this is usually a sign of a failing clutch. I thought Ill just see how it goes.

Last week the sounds completely stopped, and was working fine again, until last thursday, I started up and a weird sound came from the passenger side of the engine bay. After turning her off and waiting a while and checking a few things. I turned her back on and now there is a fairly loud whinning sound, that increases with intensity with clutch usage. Sounds more on the drivers side. It actually sounds more like a belt or pulley, but I replaced them only 5000km ago and checked them and they are fine.

Then the car randomly wouldnt go into gear, but now thats working fine again, however apart from the very loud noise the engine is stalling when ever you aren't accelerating, making it undriveable.

I'm assuming it's the clutch and that it needs replacing?
If so, to remove and install a clutch on the fto, from what I was looking in the manual, you need to remove the engine to even get to it?
If so, I dont have an engine hoist, so it's a bit out of my league, anyone got any idea on how much a clutch place might charge for this, including parts?
Don't suppose anyone is from Nowra or the Wollongong area that know a good place for this or wants to help out? :)

Thanks heaps for your help guys, much appreciated.

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:45 pm
by bushido
power steering pump

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:50 pm
by Jezza
Hey there, thanks for the help.

The sound increases greatly when putting the clutch in, just wondering how the clutch engagement would affect power steering pump noise? (sorry if thats a really dumb question). Also if it was the power steering pump, why would that make the car start stalling? As in I thought you could drive fine without power steering, as in it just went back to normal steering as redundancy? (again i'm certainly not an expert and could very much be completely wrong, so feel free to shoot me down)

Any ideas are greatly appreciated.

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:43 am
by MH999
Hey bro i have a similar noise which occurs when driving between 1500-2000rpm more like a grinding noise though but when clutch is out i

get a whirring noise which is all from the thrust bearing.Does your car make the whirring noise in neutral with clutch out? It should cost

$1200-1500 for new clutch including labour.

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:25 am
by Jezza
Hey mate, thanks.

Originally when it was more just like bearing sound, it occurred when ever the clutch was engaged, even lightly. Didn't matter if in a gear or in neutral. I would typically notice it in the lower gears, but I think it was doing it throughout the range, just at higher gears there was more road noise to cover it.

Now it is constant, just with increased intensity with clutch engagement. Yes it does it even in neutral. In regards to RPM, I didn't overly notice it at a specific range.

Oh man, $1200-$1500 :(

Cheers

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:15 pm
by vipfto
Jezza wrote:Hey mate, thanks.

Originally when it was more just like bearing sound, it occurred when ever the clutch was engaged, even lightly. Didn't matter if in a gear or in neutral. I would typically notice it in the lower gears, but I think it was doing it throughout the range, just at higher gears there was more road noise to cover it.

Now it is constant, just with increased intensity with clutch engagement. Yes it does it even in neutral. In regards to RPM, I didn't overly notice it at a specific range.

Oh man, $1200-$1500 :(

Cheers

nah will cost about $800 for new clutch incl labour and would say its thrust bearing

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:27 pm
by MH999
vipfto wrote:
Jezza wrote:Hey mate, thanks.

Originally when it was more just like bearing sound, it occurred when ever the clutch was engaged, even lightly. Didn't matter if in a gear or in neutral. I would typically notice it in the lower gears, but I think it was doing it throughout the range, just at higher gears there was more road noise to cover it.

Now it is constant, just with increased intensity with clutch engagement. Yes it does it even in neutral. In regards to RPM, I didn't overly notice it at a specific range.

Oh man, $1200-$1500 :(

Cheers

nah will cost about $800 for new clutch incl labour and would say its thrust bearing
Nah the clutch and thrust bearing will cost around $300-$400 and the labour would be around $800.Well thats what i was quoted.

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:36 pm
by vipfto
thats a total rip ^^^^

$300 + for clutch kit depending on type
$300-400 labour (its not an 8hr job)

may I suggest getting another mech to quote thats just robbery

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:47 pm
by MH999
Yeah the clutch specialist i got the quote from said it would last another 2 years if i left it lol so as soon as my car gets as bad as jezzas ill fix it.

Re: Help diagnosing high pitched whirring sound and fto stal

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:53 am
by Jezza
Hey guys, sorry about the uber late replies, damn work hey.

yeah everywhere down Nowra wants atleast $1000, and most want atleast $1200. If I can find anywhere for $800 would be awesome.
Probs will try Wollongong because thats the next closest city to me.
Oh MH999 I agree, there is no real point fixing it until it finally goes, unless you have lots of money and the sound is just that annoying! :)