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window problem

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:29 pm
by chuster
Hey guys

Ive had this problem for a while and doesnt really bother me, but since ive got free time on the holidays i thought id try fix it.

When i put down my driver's side window all the way, when its a few inches from the bottom it jolts slightly and makes a noise before going down the whole way. Do i need a new motor for the power window?

Also when its completely down it rattles when going over bumps and when i close the door. Ive done a search and realised its the window guides. Does anyone know where i can get some from locally instead of importing from overseas?

The passenger side window is fine no problems

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:57 pm
by SchumieFan
yes, electric window motors die frequently (its a mitsi thing), they are generic so you wont have much trouble finding replacements...

also a good time to check the Nylon window runners and give them a pinch if they are getting loose.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:37 am
by dstocks
Before you go and buy anything take the door lining off and make sure the window isnt hitting anything on the way down. I fixed one last week where the central locking solenoid had been replaced and was pushed in too far. Window was hitting it on the way through. As to the window guides, you can get them from your local Mitsi dealer (they are common with lancers I think). About $15 a side when i bought my last set. the part numbers are listed in some of the past threads.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:56 am
by howc
I have a problem with the window as well.

The window always auto lower itself down to the center when i raise it up all the way. It only happens when i raise the window at a go or use the Auto function (holding the button up all the way). It works fine if i raise the window bit by bit.

After auto lowering itself down, the power window will not be functionable for 10 secs or so.

sorry chuster for hijacking.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:14 pm
by rock_it
And because I don't want to start another thread on power windows...

Mine in the lancer, Go down pretty quickly (as normal) but when you wind it up, it is soooo slow ... What does that usually mean ... :?:

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:17 pm
by harry90
howc wrote:I have a problem with the window as well.

The window always auto lower itself down to the center when i raise it up all the way. It only happens when i raise the window at a go or use the Auto function (holding the button up all the way). It works fine if i raise the window bit by bit.

After auto lowering itself down, the power window will not be functionable for 10 secs or so.

sorry chuster for hijacking.
I had the same problem. Take the inside of the door apart and just unhook the plug that is connected to the power window button and leave it unhooked. It was a long shot when i did it but it worked.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:10 pm
by vipfto
rock_it wrote:And because I don't want to start another thread on power windows...

Mine in the lancer, Go down pretty quickly (as normal) but when you wind it up, it is soooo slow ... What does that usually mean ... :?:
prob motor on way

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:35 pm
by chuster
dstocks wrote:Before you go and buy anything take the door lining off and make sure the window isnt hitting anything on the way down. I fixed one last week where the central locking solenoid had been replaced and was pushed in too far. Window was hitting it on the way through. As to the window guides, you can get them from your local Mitsi dealer (they are common with lancers I think). About $15 a side when i bought my last set. the part numbers are listed in some of the past threads.
o ok thanks, just making sure are these the right part numbers? MR321765 and MR321766

Or just do the dodge? :D http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... pic&t=3952
howc wrote:I have a problem with the window as well.

The window always auto lower itself down to the center when i raise it up all the way. It only happens when i raise the window at a go or use the Auto function (holding the button up all the way). It works fine if i raise the window bit by bit.

After auto lowering itself down, the power window will not be functionable for 10 secs or so.

sorry chuster for hijacking.
no worries 8)

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:15 pm
by I8A4RE
rock_it wrote:And because I don't want to start another thread on power windows...

Mine in the lancer, Go down pretty quickly (as normal) but when you wind it up, it is soooo slow ... What does that usually mean ... :?:
id get some silicone spray (the sh*t in a can) and spray all the way your rubbers, if that dont fix it, then as VIP says. Motor probaby on its way out

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:53 pm
by rock_it
Woud WD40 work as well ... :?:

Or do I need to buy the silicone spray ...

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:09 pm
by howc
harry90 wrote:
howc wrote:I have a problem with the window as well.

The window always auto lower itself down to the center when i raise it up all the way. It only happens when i raise the window at a go or use the Auto function (holding the button up all the way). It works fine if i raise the window bit by bit.

After auto lowering itself down, the power window will not be functionable for 10 secs or so.

sorry chuster for hijacking.
I had the same problem. Take the inside of the door apart and just unhook the plug that is connected to the power window button and leave it unhooked. It was a long shot when i did it but it worked.
Ok if i leave it unhooked means i would no longer have a auto power window right?

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:18 pm
by vipfto
yes but you will have no window operation at all

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:56 pm
by rock_it
I8A4RE wrote:
rock_it wrote:And because I don't want to start another thread on power windows...

Mine in the lancer, Go down pretty quickly (as normal) but when you wind it up, it is soooo slow ... What does that usually mean ... :?:
id get some silicone spray (the sh*t in a can) and spray all the way your rubbers, if that dont fix it, then as VIP says. Motor probaby on its way out
OK peeps .. Just found some awesome stuff... Graphite Powder ... Sprinkled it in the rubber of the window slider, and wow what a difference .. No need to remove door trims or anything ..

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:16 pm
by harry90
howc wrote:
harry90 wrote:
howc wrote:I have a problem with the window as well.

The window always auto lower itself down to the center when i raise it up all the way. It only happens when i raise the window at a go or use the Auto function (holding the button up all the way). It works fine if i raise the window bit by bit.

After auto lowering itself down, the power window will not be functionable for 10 secs or so.

sorry chuster for hijacking.
I had the same problem. Take the inside of the door apart and just unhook the plug that is connected to the power window button and leave it unhooked. It was a long shot when i did it but it worked.
Ok if i leave it unhooked means i would no longer have a auto power window right?

No, the window will work like new when you unhook it. I know it sounds stupid but it does work. When you push for full auto close...it will close completely....and vice versa without any problems....there is no catch..mine has been unhooked for about a year now.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:09 am
by I8A4RE
rock_it wrote:
I8A4RE wrote:
rock_it wrote:And because I don't want to start another thread on power windows...

Mine in the lancer, Go down pretty quickly (as normal) but when you wind it up, it is soooo slow ... What does that usually mean ... :?:
id get some silicone spray (the sh*t in a can) and spray all the way your rubbers, if that dont fix it, then as VIP says. Motor probaby on its way out
OK peeps .. Just found some awesome stuff... Graphite Powder ... Sprinkled it in the rubber of the window slider, and wow what a difference .. No need to remove door trims or anything ..
My pleaseure

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:25 pm
by rock_it
I8A4RE wrote:
rock_it wrote:
I8A4RE wrote:
rock_it wrote:And because I don't want to start another thread on power windows...

Mine in the lancer, Go down pretty quickly (as normal) but when you wind it up, it is soooo slow ... What does that usually mean ... :?:
id get some silicone spray (the sh*t in a can) and spray all the way your rubbers, if that dont fix it, then as VIP says. Motor probaby on its way out
OK peeps .. Just found some awesome stuff... Graphite Powder ... Sprinkled it in the rubber of the window slider, and wow what a difference .. No need to remove door trims or anything ..
My pleaseure
Hehehehe ... Thanks mate ... :D

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:08 am
by howc
harry90 wrote:
howc wrote:
harry90 wrote:
howc wrote:I have a problem with the window as well.

The window always auto lower itself down to the center when i raise it up all the way. It only happens when i raise the window at a go or use the Auto function (holding the button up all the way). It works fine if i raise the window bit by bit.

After auto lowering itself down, the power window will not be functionable for 10 secs or so.

sorry chuster for hijacking.
I had the same problem. Take the inside of the door apart and just unhook the plug that is connected to the power window button and leave it unhooked. It was a long shot when i did it but it worked.
Ok if i leave it unhooked means i would no longer have a auto power window right?

No, the window will work like new when you unhook it. I know it sounds stupid but it does work. When you push for full auto close...it will close completely....and vice versa without any problems....there is no catch..mine has been unhooked for about a year now.
ok thanks a lot. will try it when i got time.

anyway, whats the reason behind to add graphite powder?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:39 am
by rock_it
The windows were going up slowly ... And also thee driver window would jump out of the rubber near the top, and then pull back in again ...

As there was no lubrication in the rubber tracks up the frame of the window, the graphite powder does that .. Now as the FTO does not have the top frame of a window this would not work .. But I am sure there is a rubber track inside the door that could be lubricated if need be ...

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:39 pm
by chuster
Took apart my door today and found out that the window was getting caught on a cable when going down which is why it was jolting at the bottom, dont ask me how 8O .

As for the rattling, noticed the plastic bit between the window guide and the bracket was worn, but cbf taking out the window guide atm so i'll do that later or just leave it.

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:41 pm
by Bennoz
chuster wrote:As for the rattling, noticed the plastic bit between the window guide and the bracket was worn, but cbf taking out the window guide atm so i'll do that later or just leave it.
Just pull that bracket with the plastic guide out, its only 1 nut. Then pop the plastic guide out & tap the bracket together a bit with a hammer. Reassemble & bobs your uncle, rattle gone!