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ethanol

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:30 pm
by ali_boi
hey is unleaded e-10 or ethanol fuel acceptable for FTOs?

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:34 pm
by Bennoz
Considering Japans 'regular unleaded' is 98 ron (equivalent to our premium) then I'd call E10 a big no-no.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:41 pm
by koolio1234
hahahahahahahahahahahaha


NO





hahahahahahahahahha :lol:


Anything less than 98 octane will be hurting your fto in the long term, even though some people say 95 octane is acceptable.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:51 pm
by aza013
E10 is a 91Ron fuel so I 2nd what Ben said :D

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:58 pm
by Astron_Boy
Caltex is 95 ethanol, I use that for my sedan, but the FTO and wagon always get 98.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:27 pm
by Tippin
I use it lol :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:32 pm
by Bennoz
tippin9 wrote:I use it lol :lol:
Tightarse :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:40 pm
by Astron_Boy
Bennoz wrote:
tippin9 wrote:I use it lol :lol:
Tightarse :lol:
haha, honestly, it does come down to that in the end... sure does for me :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:44 pm
by sublime19
Lol tippin I hope you're kidding!

Putting that sh*t in my car would be like be stabbing myself, I'd never do it and it would hurt me to no end to do so :?

I've never ever put non-premium in my car. I only did it once and that was only like $5 worth cos my car was just below a quarter tank and I didn't want it to go any lower in fuel otherwise it'd start sucking up all the sh*t sitting at the bottom of my fuel tank as it got closer to empty.

So $5 worth till I found a petrol station which had 98 ron =P

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:19 pm
by Bennoz
Especially since recent studies have shown, that premium fuel will take you more kms than the equivalent amount of regular. Stop being tightarses, do the right thing by your car & you'll end up getting better mileage.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:31 pm
by nicholas
Well almost, but it's not quite that simple.

You can still get a high RON even with ethanol; Ben don't you remember that V Power Racing (not made anymore) was 100 RON with a 5% ethanol blend?

Having said that, ethanol by volume has less chemical energy than petrol; which means that although it makes the fuel cheaper, you need more of it to go the same distance.

Long story short, stick to 100% petrol 98 RON fuels, you can't go wrong (BP Ultimate for me).

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:43 pm
by Tippin
Bennoz wrote:
tippin9 wrote:I use it lol :lol:
Tightarse :lol:
hahahaha hey im 17 years old, give me break :lol:

nah but honestly i didn't know it made such a difference for the fto (maybe i should read the manual one day) :oops:


i shall start using premium from now on ;) do u want me to drop in some octane booster tablets as well? :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:51 pm
by aza013
nicholas wrote:You can still get a high RON even with ethanol; Ben don't you remember that V Power Racing (not made anymore) was 100 RON with a 5% ethanol blend?
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I am one of the ppl to thank for that :lol: that fuel stuffed so meany cars and bikes :evil:

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:54 pm
by sublime19
Hmm, no wonder BP ultimate gave me like 45 kms more out a tank than vortex.

Either that or once you start putting a certain type of fuel in your car (ie - if you always put in BP ultimate your car will get "used to it" and prefer it).

I noticed this cos BP ultimate always gives me the best economy.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:46 am
by Supplanter
I read a news article recently (I think it was also on Today Tonight, not that that proves anything) that in the long run E10 is more expensive to use than 95 anyway. :roll:

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:17 am
by xSlurpee
now where can i find octane booster? :oops:

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:38 pm
by J
Supplanter wrote:I read a news article recently (I think it was also on Today Tonight, not that that proves anything) that in the long run E10 is more expensive to use than 95 anyway. :roll:
Yeh it was on today tonight. Something about some petrols are better suited to different driving conditions eg. City driving and highway driving..

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:43 pm
by BorepYano
i used to use a 98ron ethanol blend.. can't remember what the gas station was called anymore. running non stop it made no difference to performance nor milage, the problem i found with it is that it seems to evaporate faster while not being used. i.e. i used to drove like.. 150km a week max and with normal fuel i fill up once a month, but with ethanol blend i had to fill up once every 3 weeks or so.
but 1 week when i had to drive heaps and heaps, did the same k's on ethanol blend as i did with normal 98ron.
just my 2c :)

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:24 pm
by zuihoujueding
xSlurpee wrote:now where can i find octane booster? :oops:
cost around $10-$20? but i would rather pump $10-$20 worth of quality fuels.

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:56 pm
by khunjeng
e10 is fine as long as the ron is =>98

I m tuning my other car for e85 and its making about 40 rwkw more now than the 100 ron tune/fuel I was using.....its friggen awsome.

The studies are all *~delightful!~*....