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13 second fto?

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:29 pm
by KJ_bob
What do you reackon it would take to build a regular hitting 13 sec Ň/Ã… fto... anyone got one?
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Do you reackon anyone's gotten a 12 second pass without a turbo (don't say nos )?

Just curious 8)

Re: 13 second fto?

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:35 pm
by I8A4RE
KJ_bob wrote:What do you reackon it would take to build a regular hitting 13 sec and/A fto... anyone got one?
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Do you reackon anyone's gotten a 12 second pass without a turbo (don't say nos )?

Just curious 8)
personally dont think its possible with a 6A12

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:43 pm
by KJ_bob
god damn w0rd filter...making me look stupid :evil:

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:43 pm
by Bennoz
Not possible with 6A12. Even with nos I only once managed to break into the 14's.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:45 pm
by KJ_bob
:cry: and again with the 'word thingo'

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:47 pm
by KJ_bob
Bennoz wrote:Not possible with 6A12. Even with nos I only once managed to break into the 14's.
i thought i read u were having some pretty bad traction probs though???

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:47 pm
by Tippin
maybe if u turn it into a coke can and some serious internals, but then again its a FWD

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:49 pm
by jonowong
if you strap a turbo on it... you'd be extremely lucky to even see 13s

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:53 pm
by I8A4RE
jonowong wrote:if you strap a turbo on it... you'd be extremely lucky to even see 13s
^^^^^^ agreed

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:01 pm
by harry90
The FTO in my opinion wasnt made to go that fast. It was made to be moderately quick as well as look good and be a small compact car.
Although there is nothing against anyone trying to make it as fast as possible. :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:05 pm
by yano
I8A4RE wrote:
jonowong wrote:if you strap a turbo on it... you'd be extremely lucky to even see 13s
^^^^^^ agreed

+1... Have seen some fwd cars pull 12's but they weighed sh*t all and had crazy turrbo set ups... 12 & 13 sec passes are in the big big hp territory... There's a uk member, think his names richard, with a 6a13 single turbo thats fully built. Is running low 13's

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:33 pm
by Bennoz
yano28 wrote:
I8A4RE wrote:
jonowong wrote:if you strap a turbo on it... you'd be extremely lucky to even see 13s
^^^^^^ agreed

+1... Have seen some fwd cars pull 12's but they weighed sh*t all and had crazy turrbo set ups... 12 & 13 sec passes are in the big big hp territory... There's a uk member, think his names richard, with a 6a13 single turbo thats fully built. Is running low 13's
He's into the 12's now - and he has over 500 hp.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:34 pm
by Yardie
yano28 wrote:
I8A4RE wrote:
jonowong wrote:if you strap a turbo on it... you'd be extremely lucky to even see 13s
^^^^^^ agreed

+1... Have seen some fwd cars pull 12's but they weighed sh*t all and had crazy turrbo set ups... 12 & 13 sec passes are in the big big hp territory... There's a uk member, think his names richard, with a 6a13 single turbo thats fully built. Is running low 13's
Rich's current PB is 11.22. Watch this space as he could have the first 10 second FTO this weekend if things go as planned. 8)

Heres the run http://www.youtube.com/v/LhVCtpTsj54

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:08 am
by yano
Snap! Is his car officially the fastest fto in the world?? The video won't load for me but I've seen his progress over time. So jealous!

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:35 am
by koolio1234
anythings possible if you have the cash. so its plausible to run 13s and 12s but whether its economical spending money on a na fwd for those times is really up to the person. Although, i have to admit that it would probably required an engine swap with a 2.5ltr mivec tt galant coz I dont think the 6a12 is quite up to the task. So plausible but unlikely.

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:44 am
by nicholas
Correction - the FTO wasn't made to be extremely quick in a straight line. It IS quick around corners.

10 second FTO FTW haha.

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:01 pm
by FtoSam
11 seconds is my goal when im finished AWD!!!

13 seconds in an N/a FTO is not plausible for a couple of reasons...

1- Power. A tuned up Mivec would push aroud 120kw atw... go postal on the thing and look at MAYBE 140-150....

2- Weight- The FTO is a pretty stripped out car already, with not much being able to be removed... at about 1,200kg+ I doubt you'd be able to strip it, put some fuel in and sit in it and come under 1,100... even with extensive CF work i dont see it happening...

3- FWD - Although this does help efficiency and such, it is not the best for gaining traction under heavy acceleration... this is because of a thing called weight transfer. As the FTO accelerates from a standstill, all the weight moves to the rear of the car, which lifts the front end. This reduces traction dramatically at the front wheels... this can be counter-acted with some rock solid rear suspension.. however RWD always benifit from this as it actually GIVES them traction. This problem in particular is one that i am trying to desperately sort out...



So in all, the FTO doesnt have much going for it at the strip....

Hope thats a more detailed answer for you

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:55 pm
by zuihoujueding
yano28 wrote:Snap! Is his car officially the fastest fto in the world?? The video won't load for me but I've seen his progress over time. So jealous!
Technically, it has the
1)chassis of the FTO
2)heart of a galant

So its not really a pure FTO anymore. I would call it a fast FF Mitsu! :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:26 pm
by nicholas
zuihoujueding wrote: 2)heart of a galant
Spoken like a true azn :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:29 pm
by zuihoujueding
pardon my ignorance...whats azn? :roll: