Who rekons this is bullshit?

[AMACHA]

who rekons this fto for sale on ebay is bullshit look at the km's its done and hte price there asking for it.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1995-Mitsubishi- ... dZViewItem

[mitcheo]

looks pretty clean though

[cjam]

hmz doesnt seem right... but i would expect low kms not 1800 though. ive just been shopping for an fto around that age and bought a 95 gpx and not a single fto i looked at didnt have cracks in the plastic thingo on the seat that holds the seatbelt and only like 1 out of 25 had no wear on the seats even those that had only done like 50-80k kms. very odd, im going to ring them tomorrow..lol

[DaveO]

1800 km. Obviously a typo.
But $19,000 for a 1995 GR. "Tell him he's dreaming"

[dstocks]

My other FTO has 16,000km on it. is technically possible. Would have to be from a collector or something like that though. If you think about it, would be very easy to tell if that figure is made up though as everything would have to be absolutely perfect.

[harry90]

IMO, the kilometres on the odometer is 100% rubbish....other then that the car looks legit, except the seat trim looks a bit different to the stock.

[I8A4RE]

its deffinitly possible, i have heard of way stranger things. Half way down the page its say TIME WARP, so its definitly not a typo. It would be pretty easy to tell if it had only done that amount of kms as DSTOCKS said everything would be immaculate.

[manofwood]

how can anyone typo 3 times? of course it can be legit, and who cares if the trim looks 'different', its still stock, and i think we're all very aware of how broad the choice of factory options were on the FTO when it was released. No one is going to fully reupholster and repaint a car to try and rip someone off, not even lebos.
i think 19k is an alright asking price seeing as it is virtually new. i wouldnt pay it though, knowing what else is out there for that price.

[yano]

I actually bought my car through them. The company's owned through a friends friend and are legit although can be a rip. Most of their cars have pretty low km's on it, mine had 46,000 on it, but 1800 is possibly a mistake. These guys normally overprice their cars but will come down after some haggling.

[harry90]

how can anyone typo 3 times? of course it can be legit, and who cares if the trim looks 'different', its still stock, and i think we're all very aware of how broad the choice of factory options were on the FTO when it was released. No one is going to fully reupholster and repaint a car to try and rip someone off, not even lebos.
i think 19k is an alright asking price seeing as it is virtually new. i wouldnt pay it though, knowing what else is out there for that price.

I was just stating the obvious...and if it was legit 1800km's, then the seller should have service history from when the car was released.
I also agree, with 19k you can do better. Unless you are collecting them (as someone said earlier), then it would have more value to you.

[manofwood]

why would you need service history on a car thats done 1800km?! basic cars get serviced every 5000km by their logbooks! if it needed anything, it would only need the oil dropped and new filter/ filter flush, thats it! where does the ad say that there is no service history anyway? you've made assumptions based on nothing.
like the others were saying, you look at the car's condition as a whole to see if its legit. a car that 13 years old and done 1800km would be absolutley flawless in wear and tear standards.

[harry90]

The fact that there is some indication that the car is actually 1800 kms old can be proven by service. Obivously if the car is ACTUALLY 1800kms old then there will be no service history, but still need some indication to prove the number of kms on the clock is legit. I never said the ad said there was no service history. I didnt assume, if you bothered to read my entire post,m you would see that i said "IMO".

And also, it is not hard to make a car look flush at first sight, especially through pics. A 13 year old car having done 1800kms is on its own suspisious enough for anyone looking to purchase that car.
In regards to the wear and tear of the car, if the seller has been the only owner of the car (obviously), then they should have a bill of purchase of how many kms were on the clock when the bought the car. It will not be hard for the seller to identify to anyone buying the car, whether the kms is legit, because you cant just expect someone to believe a 13 year old car has done only 1800kms.

What exaclty did i make assumptions based on nothing about ? i merely stated that the trim of the car looks different to the majority of the stock fto's around. I never said it has been changed to make it look new.

[jonowong]

that is irrelevant because imports dont come with service history or log books...

[rock_it]

that is irrelevant because imports dont come with service history or log books...

Mine has all the jap serving stamps and what not in the book ... Can't read a word of it, but it is all there ....

[manofwood]

I was just stating the obvious...and if it was legit 1800km's, then the seller should have service history from when the car was released.

thats your assumption! and an opinion isnt that much different to an assumption when there's no facts to support.

I was talking about wear and tear, not fixing chips in the paint. Creaks, squeaks, worn suspension bushes would be the easiest way to tell if its bullshit, no one's going to bother about them. undercarraige damage, original shock travel, gearbox shifting ability, engine output etc. if you wanted to go too far, you can check the cylinder bores for the original honing. after a while (not as long if its been thrashed) that original honing will dissapear.

So many tests and inspections available to prove its real.

why is it so suspicious that its only done that amount of k's? look at collectable muscle cars from Oz and US, some of them have barely touched 500km for pure collectable value reasons, and 2 of them recently sold in Oz for over $600k, why cant an FTO do that? maybe someone thought 'car of the year, might be worth something down the track'
and got it wrong of course.
i would be absolutely chuffed if my old car had 1800km, i was stoked that it had 28000km, and it was pretty obvious my car hadnt done anymore than that, due to the last stated inspections....

that first paragraph of your last post didnt really make sense, it does but doesnt, doesnt but does.... why would there be proof of km's if it doesnt go in for service? maybe the old owner didnt think about that, or maybe he serviced it himself, like i do. but i'm not allowed to write in the book and neither were they

you dont have to 'believe' that a car has done little k's, if you're interested you'll do the research and find whether its true or not..

[harry90]

I was using service history as an example of how the seller can prove the kms. I am just trying to find a way to say how he can show the kms are original. Maybe a bill of sale (from when the seller bought the car). And i do understand that a collector would in fact service their own car. I never said it was impossible, i just thought it to be suspicous, but i can see how someone passionate enough can make this possible.
I get your point. And i will move on.

[manofwood]

arguing is fun

[Supplanter]

[manofwood]

i'm the donkey, for obvious reasons

[AMACHA]

in the last year that iv been on this forum your always the one in arguments manofwood lmaoo