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Suspension setting?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:34 am
by speedcrushdemon
Hi there could someone share some 'decent' suspension setting for me that includes
1. Camber
2. Castor
3. Toe
4. SAI
5. Include Angles
6. Front ride height
7. Rear ride height
I know the setting might vary because diff ppl has diff driving style, but i hope someone can share one, which they felt it's good for them. I just want to have a nice setting for my baby... as i just changed the wheels
Buddy Club P1 racing hypergold
17x7 offset 35
Toyo Proxes 4
215/40/R17
Thanks!
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:56 am
by bushido
I have very similar wheels to yours and I have my coilovers set at -35mm at the front and -30 and the back. Not too sure about the other settings though
Re: Suspension setting?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 9:33 am
by mouse
speedcrushdemon wrote:Hi there could someone share some 'decent' suspension setting for me that includes
Just flicking through the manual and found the following
At least if nothing else a good starting piont
1. Camber front -0 degrees 30` Rear -1degrees
2. Castor front 2 degrees 30` Rear
3. Toe front 0mm Rear 3mm
4. SAI
5. Include Angles inner 30 degrees outer 30 degrees
6. Front ride height Standard susspension 150mm
7. Rear ride height Standard susspension 150mm
Hope this helps Regs Mouse
Thanks!
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:27 pm
by SG
try
-2.3 camber front
-1 camber rear
0 toe, fr and r
max caster
rear tyre pressures 4psi higher than front tyre pressures
height difference fr to r depends on the spring rate of your coilovers thats the major difference to balance!
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:19 am
by vipfto
SG wrote:try
-2.3 camber front
-1 camber rear
0 toe, fr and r
max caster
rear tyre pressures 4psi higher than front tyre pressures
height difference fr to r depends on the spring rate of your coilovers thats the major difference to balance!
thats a lot of front camber for road use try a little less say -1.5 and it will not hurt to toe in the front a little bit
as with more neg camber on front wheel drive the less traction and combined with a flat or bit of toe out it will get incredible bump steer and try to track down any changing surface on th road it can not to mention be extremely difficult in the wet to handle
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:11 pm
by SG
its easier in the wet cos it slips a bit , but yeah lol, incredible bump steer... you might be able to use the track rod ends off the evo RCA kit from whiteline though to reduce it
toe out give you a bad turn in speed
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:18 pm
by I8A4RE
Ok i just found my alignment sheet, i was running -1.2 front and rear and that made a huge improvement that was when i first got coilovers. Then when i got new rims it was increased to -2.5. but after talking to a mate who does alignments im taking it to -3.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:29 pm
by Bennoz
-3 degree camber? While she'll go round corners like she's on rails, you'll snap your thumbs off trying to hold it in a straight line on a bumpy road... not mention the tyre wear. Ah well... if you're anything like me, I have to replace the front tyres twice a year anyway
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:10 am
by speedcrushdemon
think i wont go tht far for the camber... maybe 1 to 2?
is it better to make the front value higher than the rear?
by the way im using G4 coilover, the spring rates are
F: 7.5 kg/mm
R: 7.2 kg/mm
and i found tht the rear's quite floaty and bumpy
is there any way to solve this? increase/decrease the rear tyre pressure? 32psi for both front and rear now... lower the rear ride height?
also, i realize that cusco zero 2 has a very diff spring rates
F: 7.0 kg/mm
R: 4.0 kg/mm
Why is it so diff to G4? Are they really better? Also, are ftos coilovers completely the same as mirage and lancer's one?
thanks guys!
here's a pic of my sexy lady
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:47 am
by SG
with the g4's yeah you'd have to lower the back end a lot more than normal to keep the balance of the car ok when you turn in...as it turns out
and you should be able to reduce the rear arb as well if that doesnt work (its too sharp at the back) to a standard lancer one or mirage one (16mm?) 96-2000 4dr, 98-2002 2dr
are the g4's good quality for a cheap coilover? do they rust like teins? i'm scratching my chin at getting some of these instead of revalving the teins with new springs
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:39 pm
by I8A4RE
SG wrote:are the g4's good quality for a cheap coilover? do they rust like teins? i'm scratching my chin at getting some of these instead of revalving the teins with new springs
Mine have been on nearly 2 yrs and have been brillant NO RUST, do teins rust?
by the way im using G4 coilover, the spring rates are
F: 7.5 kg/mm
R: 7.2 kg/mm
and i found tht the rear's quite floaty and bumpy
That should be a really stiff spring rate are you sure thats right, i have about 5.2 front and back from memory. When purchasing the G4's i was asked what srping rate i wanted.
Have you adjusted the damper, put it on its stiffest setting, then work your way back to its softest until you find the right setting for your driving.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:13 pm
by SG
I8A4RE wrote:Mine have been on nearly 2 yrs and have been brillant NO RUST, do teins rust?
They've rusted on the Teins where a stone has chipped some paint off
Hmmm i might get some of those then! custom spring rates sound good too...
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:23 pm
by vipfto
I8A4RE wrote:Ok i just found my alignment sheet, i was running -1.2 front and rear and that made a huge improvement that was when i first got coilovers. Then when i got new rims it was increased to -2.5. but after talking to a mate who does alignments im taking it to -3.
Thats a lot of camber been running my front at 2.5 and rear at 3 and its awesome to handle but like bennoz said can be a handfull on bumpy straight road but unlike you guys that is my job and I have 24hr access to wheel alignment machine
Also sppedcrushdemon 32psi for 40 profile tyres is bit to low unless you dont mind buying them frequently should be closer to 40 psi mate
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:24 pm
by I8A4RE
I dont know what the difference between the teins and g4's are but i can tell you that going from stock to g4's was nothing short of impressive.