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Locking wheel nuts

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:15 pm
by RallyMad
Hey all, just wanted some feedback from these that bother with locking wheel nuts.

I put some on for a few months but have just taken them off. They looked like crap compared to my other nuts and due to my wheels offset I was always recking the key and the inside of the nuts due to the key not being long enough to get a decent length socket into it. They seem to have been really cheap anyway, as they had gone rusty after a few months.

I just had the thought as well, would a locking nut that is heavier than the others stuff up the wheels balance?

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:50 pm
by maggsy
i don't reckon they'd screw up with the balance because they're on the hub and they are so close to the centre of turning point. so it would have less effect on the wheel

my wheel nuts are fairly hard to see as well because they sit inside holes. and i have never had a problem with remving them or getting an extesion bar in there.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:34 pm
by lwrida
You can buy a lightweight set of locking nuts if your bothered from any car bits seller. Supercheap etc.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:50 pm
by RallyMad
That must be a capitals thing. Couldn't find anything up here. If your talking about something from supercheap I'd say the lightweight would have to be taken with a grain of salt.

My normal nuts I have no problem with as I have a long extension for them. The lock nuts however where different. The key was not long enough to stay inside the longer socket, using a normal socket just strips it.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:56 pm
by manofwood
you can buy lug nuts that use a big allen key attachment, sockets cant be used on them at all since the outer surface is circular instead of hex shaped. cost you around $40 plus the key from bridgestone etc

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:50 am
by maggsy
yeh mine are circular on the outside and they have a special key which is like a wierd flower shape to unlock them.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:26 am
by mr-charisma
not worth it if someone steals your wheels IMO .. I wouldn't go without them ..

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:17 am
by I8A4RE
maggsy wrote:i don't reckon they'd screw up with the balance because they're on the hub and they are so close to the centre of turning point. so it would have less effect on the wheel

my wheel nuts are fairly hard to see as well because they sit inside holes. and i have never had a problem with remving them or getting an extesion bar in there.
AGREE (and the weight differenc would be so small too) and AGREE

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:37 pm
by RallyMad
confused now :?

So your all saying you have these allen key type locking nuts?

Just to clarify as well. My nuts sit inside holes of course :roll: but that isn't the problem. The spokes on my wheels come out from the hub but the nuts are easy to get to with the extension socket that came with them. The lock nuts though had a key that you put into the nut then turned with a socket and because the key isn't long enough to fit deep into the socket it burrs the edges of the nut and the key. I'm guessing I must have just got a dodgy type.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:25 pm
by manofwood
not dodgy, just not the right type for your wheels.

i couldnt have anything but lugnuts because the way my wheels were designed prevented any socket from ever being able to enter the bore (smaller diameter than the socket itself) so the only way around was to have lugnuts that used allen key 'socket keys' like your locknut key to be able to undo them.

just think of how you would normally use an allen key compared to sockets and spanners and you'll figure it out.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:05 pm
by maggsy
RallyMad wrote:confused now :?

So your all saying you have these allen key type locking nuts?
it's not an allen key but instead of having special socket that goes over the lock nut, it has a key which slots into the top of the nut and the key fits into an ordinary socket.


pic of locking nut on the wheel

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pic of key

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the key then fits into the socket :arrow:

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And if it still doesn't reach then u can get an extension bar (as shown)

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:16 pm
by maggsy
sorry about the dodgy graphics, my camera was about to die so i had to take thee photos quickly without letting it focus, and it was also night which made it worse. :?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:19 pm
by RallyMad
Thanks for that Maggsy.

That is pretty much exactly what I had. You see how the key only sit shallow in the socket. In mine that is pretty pronounced and so with an extension on it just doesn't lock in properly and then burrs the edges of the key and the lock nut. After a few months on and only taking them off about 3 times they had started to rust were the edges had been burred off. Maybe I'll go to Bridgestone or someone tomorrow and see what is about.

Thanks all.