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500hp 2.2l 6a12 Mivec Fto (automatic!!)

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:23 pm
by G_A_V
I stumbled upon this car today, i have seen the site before, but he has upgradd to a gt30 turbo, and has been dynod at over 500hp !!
the site even includes a list of every modification made, most of is in japanese thoguh, but would be a great to base the turbo kits whcih were talked about here on it
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Ci ... dex_e.html

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:43 pm
by GPXXX
some quick facts for those who are lazy to check the link:

507ps at 8000rpm (1.1bar on GT30)
588NM at 6000rpm
Boost powerband: 2000rpm - 8300rpm 8O

and it looks like his gearbox/drivetrain is still in one piece... surely that must give you some level of comfort eh Scracy? ;)

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:52 pm
by Supplanter
PFFFT! dannyboyau can only get 400 hp :wink:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:55 pm
by G_A_V
thing is he hasnt mentioned what method was used to drop the compression ratio to run at that boost

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:57 pm
by dannyboyau
I spoke to Moritaku by email a couple of times quite a while back here is some of what he said.

Hello!
E-Mail thanks!

As for FTO which 6A13 was carried on, it doesn't know as for the details.
But, one owner of FTO which 6A13 was carried on is known.
There are many cases to change into the engine of lancer evolution in Japan.
Many VI is in the version from IV.
It often change the engine of lancer evolution comparatively
because GS of the grade of FTO is a serial 4 mind pipe engine.
Moreover, the engine of lancer evolution faces the power up because it is sturdy.

Hello!
E-Mail thanks!
I am sorry that an answer becomes slow.

Sorry to say, a 6A13 FTO has already caused an accident,
and they are the vehicles which haven't existed any longer.

My FTO is tiptronic.
But, the inside is a little remodeled so that it can stand the high power.
4WD FTO doesn't exist in Japan.
It is difficult beyond the bolt on turbo.

Thank you.

----
MORITAKU

though it might be of interest

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:03 pm
by dannyboyau
MORITAKU is running the GT30 Pro this is rated as a 600 Hp turbo I am running the standard GT30 which is rated at 500 Hp turbo

he has changed all the internals and droped the compression ratio


I did have some other emails from him about his engine but cant find them.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:07 pm
by G_A_V
does anyone understand those emails lol
what would a setup like that be worth ??
Are the internals completly worked, si that what he means by the inside of his car remodeled ?
what is the difference between the gt30 and gt30 pro ?

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:31 pm
by dannyboyau
i would have to check but i think it is just the inlet turbine wheels are different

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:35 pm
by dannyboyau
he meant that the internals had been strengthened

He is speaking pidgeon english, i guess you have not traveled to asia much

Also he is mainly answering questions that i asked him

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:59 pm
by scracy
Never really had any doubts about the gearbox Mikey, i still recon a tip box without being strengthened with an oil cooler would probably handle 12 psi quite comfortably maybe even as much as 15psi.Ive given mine hell and havent broken it. Remember its torque that destroys gearboxes generally+turbo power is progressive and doesnt subject the gear box to the shock load that say a supercharged engine would. Either way that bloke has a very nice setup, which over here would probably cost inxs of $20000! Nice very very nice :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:13 pm
by GPXXX
Supplanter wrote:PFFFT! dannyboyau can only get 400 hp :wink:
that's 400hp AT THE WHEELS my friend, whereas I believe Moritaku's HP figure is at the flywheel...

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:13 am
by G_A_V
no its at the wheels, go down near the bottom, he used a dyno

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:26 am
by Supplanter
Don't worry, I am impressed with both cars :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:55 am
by GPXXX
if THIS is the dyno chart you are referring to, then either it's old (coz it's only peaking at just over 340hp) or it's the equivalent power at the front wheels for the 500hp motor...

and IMO the dyno chart could reflect the power at the flywheel, coz when you think about it he is using a 600hp turbo therefore to generate 500hp at the wheels, he'd need a crapload more than 600hp on his motor (assuming 20-30%% power loss through the drivetrain like any typical FWD)

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:06 pm
by G_A_V
the dyno chart shows 340hp with the old turbo, and he has said his car has 340hp with that turbo, so im retty sure hwne he says he has 500hp with the gt30 pro he means at the wheels

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:40 am
by jonowong
scracy wrote: which over here would probably cost inxs of $20000!
it would probably cost more in japan, everything in japan costs heaps...
i travelled about 20minutes on a train and it cost $5 one way!!

and a ramen dinner is like $30!!
:( :( :(

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:31 am
by GPXXX
jonowong wrote:
scracy wrote: and a ramen dinner is like $30!!
:( :( :(
looks like i'll be bringing my own supply of the good ol' Mee Goreng from Safeway on my next Tokyo Auto Salon trip... :?

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:55 am
by jonowong
yeah i went to japan as an exchange student and my spare money to spend on cool stuff became the money i needed to eat and train ticket to school and other living expenses such as school excursions and stuff