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What next?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:18 am
by FtoSam
righto... well my engine is nearly complete..

Just wondering what i could do next??

as far as performance goes...

Im doing a little work on driveline and suspension (coilovers, LSD, uprated CVs, big brakes, etc) but im also going to be doing any more performance mods i can...

Details of the build so far are:

Engine:
2.0L Non-Mivec V6 Quad-Cam
Acid Cleaned Block and Heads
Surface grind engine blocks and cylinder heads
Bore and hone engine block
Service Cylinder heads, cut valves and seats
Perform mild port job on cylinder heads
ARP Head and Main Stud Kits
CP Forged low compression pistons 8.0 : 1
Forged Conrod Set
Replace waterpump, timing belt and hydraulic timing belt tensioner
Solid USA Rings
VRS Gasket Set
6a13tt DOHC Turbo Spec Cams
Conrod Bearing kit
Main Bearing Kit
chromoly Lightweight Flywheel
Replaced Lifters


Other Performance:
Garrett GT-28 Turbo
Turbosmart Dual Stage Boost Controller
Turbosmart BOV
Turbosmart Turbo Timer
Wastegate (not sure on size)
600x400x80 Intercooler (i think)
Microtec LT-10s ECU
390cc injectors (up from 166)
Walbro uprated Fuel pump
Exceedy Sports Organic Clutch (will get modified if it struggles with power)
3" Highflow Exhaust



So what else can be done??? Im thinking upgrding to a GT35/40 turbo or something of the likes...

Also im guessing a heavy port and polish on the heads.. etc...

if you have a suggestion, give an idea of $$ it would cost...

Thanks for any help...

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:32 am
by FtoSam
Please keep this on topic... my threads always end up chocka full of spam...

not this one...

any spam will be deleted on sight, and if you persist with the spamming, i'll have a cry to ben to get him to give you a warning...

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:03 am
by mr-charisma
Go for some safety/handling mods next. Theres no way I'd be running that much power without upgrading some of the stuff thats keeping you held to the road...
Thinking LSD, Big Brakes, Good Tyres, replace Suspension - Adjustable Coilovers (if you don't mind a harsher ride), Some poly bushes (I think OE Bushes in the front cause the poly ones are too soft apparently- talk to Fulcrum about what you should do)
Whiteline uprated sway bars, Whiteline droplinks & Strut Braces
Tougher CV's ... I dunno... maybe wait to see if your current ones stand up to the punishment ... wouldn't replace unless they're already buggered - they're pretty expensive
Then lose some weight.

Oh, also put in a rollcage & racing harnesses FFS! lol

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hehe, couldn't resist ;)

Re: What next?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:38 am
by FtoSam
FtoSam wrote: Im doing a little work on driveline and suspension (coilovers, LSD, uprated CVs, big brakes, etc) but im also going to be doing any more performance mods i can...
read mate...

And no to rollcage... rollcage = defects...

Racing harness may be an idea though... but i think that'd mean a 2 seater....

Weight loss isnt too much on my agenda... a few little bits like my CF bonnet and lightweight 18s are enough for me...

but the whole idea of this car is max power and max looks..

Hoping to be a cover car. So i dont want to strip it out... if anything i'll be adding weight... but not too much... prob 2x12 subs (light ones...) and basic system...

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:03 pm
by mr-charisma
bloody hell, rollcage is an illegal modification!? It should be compulsory IMO (At least for performance cars ... I want one in my car)
besides, is there anything about your car that isn't defectable? lol

I want to get a racing harness as well, at least just for the drivers side...

hehe, Max Power .... "Nobody snuggles with Max Power, they strap themselves in & feel the G's"..

Just go all out, spend another 30k & do an AWD conversion ;)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:04 pm
by FtoSam
yeh... AWD is definately on the board for next year.. will prob wait for adam to do it then get it done at the same place straight after him... lol...

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:14 pm
by rock_it
I have been toying with the idea, of cutting out the GSR floorpan (for rear diff and stuff) to see if I could make it fit into the FTO ...

Do you know what car the FTO could use as the basis of AWD ???

I already have the Evo III GSR, so I may be able to do a comparison in dimensions and stuff ... :D

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:32 pm
by FtoSam
I know that adam has a gearbox for a 6a13tt Legnum wanting to be put in his FTO...

but i'd probably go see APC, as they deal with AWD mitsi's a lot...

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:39 pm
by rock_it
I know of a place down here, that specialises in Mitsi conversions.. They usuall do stock lancer to GSR/EVO conversions, and GSR-Actuall EVO's too.. I now get most of my spare parts off them ..

I think their latest project has been converting a Lancer (Aust Delivered) into an EVO VII ... So yeah, that is who I would probably get to do the job ..

Gearbox and all that is good, but how would you make room for the rear set up ... Dif and all that ... So if you dont have a floor to cut out and weld in, you would have to customise the actuall FTO floor ... Which would cost a hell of a lot more then finding a similar floorpan and just welding it in...

But after I finish with the evo I guess I will chase it down ...

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:15 pm
by Bennoz
^^ What Mr Charisma said.

You remind me of me in my youth Sam :lol: Throwing all your dollars at horsepower.

You're gonna have 200kws...and you're running standard brakes & stock suspension (apart from lowering springs)

Its gonna be an arse to control. I'd fit a limo diff so you get some form of traction, I'd stick some whopper stoppers on the front so you can haul the c*nt up, then I'd stiffen it up. After spending 8k on the motor, surely you could part with $1200 for a set of D2's & another $1400 on the UAS big brake kit. A limo diff will also set you back around $800.

The legalities of roll cages varies from state to state, but its generally the same or there abouts. Down here a full cage is illegal, but a half cage is not - as long as it padded. Even a half cage with stiffen your chassis up.

When Im up there, go for a drive in my car, you'll want to spend money on suspension & brakes after that....

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:43 pm
by FtoSam
ugh.... you guys arent listening...

thats EXACTLY what im doing...

suspension, brakes, lsd, etc...

but while im saving up/paying for them, im planning my next HP mods...

so stop stressing about being able to stop, etc..

Plans are for UAS Big brake kit, $2000 worth of tein coilovers, LSD, Poly bushes, etc... all to go in VERY soon...

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:08 pm
by RallyMad
mr-charisma wrote:bloody hell, rollcage is an illegal modification!? It should be compulsory IMO (At least for performance cars ... I want one in my car)
besides, is there anything about your car that isn't defectable? lol

I want to get a racing harness as well, at least just for the drivers side...

hehe, Max Power .... "Nobody snuggles with Max Power, they strap themselves in & feel the G's"..

Just go all out, spend another 30k & do an AWD conversion ;)
As Ben said half cages must be padded and I think even checked if not signed off on (ie. mod plated). Full cages are illegal cept in rally cars :twisted: We have to drive them between stages so get special rego which allows us to drive them on the day of an event or for testing. Other restrictions as well but I can't remember.

From what people from QT have said to me it's more about what would happen to other cars, you'd be ok as long as you didn't wack your head on the cage but what about the other car. On that reasoning though I think 4 wheel drives should be band :wink: :D

Be careful with the harness thing as well, last time I checked for Queensland you need a mod plate if your modifying any part of the crash restraint systems (seatbelts).

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:24 pm
by Bennoz
Get a 4 point harness. That way you can use existing seat belt mount spots :)

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:28 pm
by eThix
lol guys Sam wan'ts to know what mods he can do next to get more HP :P

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:52 pm
by FtoSam
lol.. how bout i start another thread for you boys...

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:08 pm
by FTO99R
ive heard rumours that one of the aclipse 4wd platforms can be converted into the fto (with a great deal of money, time and engineering knowhow). I read it on a website but havnt been able to find it again since

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:20 pm
by jonowong
no one has mentioned nitrous yet...

i was seriously considering a zex kit as it is the safest dry kit in my opinion, when you push the nos button, the fuel management unit increases fuel pressure so you dont run lean like other dry nitrous kits...


heres a reviews from people that have used the zex dry nitrous kits before
http://www.carreview.com/cat/forced-ind ... 79crx.aspx

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:28 pm
by FtoSam
very good idea mate... and with my fuel system i should be able to support it...

and if i get a bigger turbo, it would help me bring on boost...

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:49 pm
by jonowong
question is where you going to put the bottle lol

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:04 pm
by FtoSam
Heard of custom boot install???

But if the cops are any good they'll see the lines....

plans are to put a fake bottle at the centerpeice of the install, then have the real bottle hidden... so they can see that its disconected and hence legal....

but i wouldnt be running it round the street anyway... much... lol