FTO AUSTRALIA

Hello everyone,

Does anyone heel and toeing brake in their FTO?

I've tried it a bit of late but I think either the acelerator is too far from the brake or the brake pedal is too high compared to the accelerator.

Is it possible my brake pedal being too high may be an issue with my car?

Oh, I can easily hell and toe brake in my other car so I'm pretty sure it isn't my technique.

i can heel toe my hilux, my sedan, and my cabrio, but cant heel toe a tip tronic fto

I've been looking into this. Im gonna put an auto pedal on the manual pedal assembly. Hopefully that will close up the distance between the pedals. If height is an issue, that can always be adjusted under the dash where the pedal meet the master cylinder arms.

Nuff Said!

I've already got size 13 feet

Yeah - can do, but it does help if you are wearing the 'right' shoes.

But not the ones above

Not a huge point to it on the road, but it is a bit of fun.

Hey guys just anouther way to solve this u know how u can get those fancy pedals that go over your origanl ones well the ones ive got are bigger and make it nice and close to the accelerator and brake works fine

Yeah, but they are kinda illegal from memory...

Mine are adjust close to level each other for heel toe

meh havnt had any problems with them being illegal and there been on there for a while

like Ben said you can ajust the hight of the break to even them out or get a custom made braket for the accelerator to lift it up to the same leval as the break.
but the problem you then have is running the risc of hitting the break and accelerator at the same time in an emergancy when you need to stop
power and breaks sometimes dont mix

Thanks everyone.

Let us know how you go with the auto pedal idea please Ben.

I think I'll have a look at adjusting the brake pedal.

lol @ MAD -FTO

Agreed Aza013, but I think with the distance that is currently between the pedals, this shouldn't be a problem. They are a lot closer together in my TX3 that I can heel & toe and I've never done this, I have a size 12 foot too. Not to keen on making soming thing to adjust the accelerator pedal though, I figure (depending on costs) if someone wanted to go to this level to do this then they may as well be looking at pedal boxes, but then I'm not sure about legality.

Size 10 feet here and i find the pedals perfect for me. Can easily do it with driving shoes or normal sneakers, the distance between brake and pedal is just perfect for me although i do move my heel (as in rotating anti clockwise) for the accelerator. Ive seen people just nudge it with the side of their foot when the gap is really small lol.

Righto... after a quick search on google of "heel and toeing" i found out what it is... And yeah... I always do it... But i found myself getting into the habbit after first getting the car and realising it had a decent clutch that actually grabs and doesnt slip around like my ol N13 Pulsar...

So i got into the habbit to make downshifts smoother...

Will have to look into it now for performance driving...

Yeah Delvance, that is how I do it in my other car. I just move my heel anti clock wise to 'blip'the throttle. I'm thinking this sounds more and more think it could be the height of my brake pedal.

Sam, I think performance wise it is just to help with engine braking but I remember something that I've been taught from Mechanical engineers that it may also save on engine wear as you are matching the input shaft speed to the output shaft speeds, so saving stress on the clutch and synchros. Although I'm a little confused now, this might be more to do with double clutching on up shifts.

Rallymad,

Pretty sure the height can be adjusted. Also brake fluid level affects how far down you push the pedal before the brakes bites.

Heel and toe does save on engine wear as youre roughly matching the rpms to the gear and wheel speed. Also helps prevent lockup and is great for trail braking! The FTO loves this! hehe

heel & toe all the time, can't drive without it.

Once you know how to, and once it comes naturally it doesn't matter too much what shoes and what pedals you have, but it does help.

From memory the "to heel & toe or not to heel & toe" debate is a complicated one. Some say it is good for the car because it reduced wear on the gearbox, but SOME say because you are using the engine more to brake, it wears the gearbox down quicker, and the theory is that brake pads are cheaper then a new gearbox.

And if you do it constantly, you'll find your fuel bill going up.... not that its ever bothered me!

in my last car I used the gears to slow down with and after 230000km I had to change my front breaks yes factory pads lasted for that long and no danage to any thing