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Thanks Ben. That sums up what I was trying to say nicely. Given its no longer got a home, ill add that to complete FTO now:

http://www.completefto.com.au/CompleteFTO.asp?aid=522

dstocks wrote:Thanks Ben. That sums up what I was trying to say nicely. Given its no longer got a home, ill add that to complete FTO now:

http://www.completefto.com.au/CompleteFTO.asp?aid=522

Nice one!

I'll try find the original prices too, they seem to be messed up..

Taz wrote:They put a pod and a fan on a turbo Big Ugly Soap Box Racer call it a cai and expect results.
But hey if a half cocked 2 man team of enthusiasts say its all a load of sh*t rhen I believe them, im sure mutli million dollar race cars and companies are wrong as well as the principles of an internal combustion engine necausw that simple research proves it...

It was a subaru mate..

Also, how does putting a fan directly in front of a completely exposed filter not replicate a cold air intake? (Serious question, what is the difference)

Bennoz wrote:Because no ones ever compared a bunch of different pod filters on the same FTO on a dyno

http://web.archive.org/web/200302061447 ... filter.htm

Useful!

silverGPX wrote:Watch the mighty car mods one too

Although Mightycarmods is entertaining, they are FAR from a reliable source when it comes to information / results. Most of the stuff they do is cringeworthy I've found :\

Daniel2019 wrote:

Taz wrote:They put a pod and a fan on a turbo Big Ugly Soap Box Racer call it a cai and expect results.
But hey if a half cocked 2 man team of enthusiasts say its all a load of sh*t rhen I believe them, im sure mutli million dollar race cars and companies are wrong as well as the principles of an internal combustion engine necausw that simple research proves it...

It was a subaru mate..

Also, how does putting a fan directly in front of a completely exposed filter not replicate a cold air intake? (Serious question, what is the difference)

No its an R34 im talking about their cai video. An exposed pod in front of a fan is not a cai. There is different pressures, air flow ans temperatures involved.
It was also absolutely pointless doing it on a stock turbo skyline... still has to go through a turbo and intercooler

Taz wrote:No its an R34 im talking about their cai video. An exposed pod in front of a fan is not a cai. There is different pressures, air flow ans temperatures involved.
It was also absolutely pointless doing it on a stock turbo Big Ugly Soap Box Racer... still has to go through a turbo and intercooler

Regardless of the turbo, how is running a tube from your front bar up to in front of your filter any different from just blowing a fan onto the filter?

If anything the fan would be better than a cold air intake.

Im not a specialist and probably wouldnt know, but you cant replace conditions with similar ones and expect your results to be absolute and conclusive. Im sure that an enclosed box will probably have more pressure than outside wind rushing at it, and my guess is that having ambient cold air is better than it blowing directly at the pod, ad the pod naturally sucks in the air, and can do so far more efficiently when it has it readily available all around it rather than being forced to grab it from the front of the filter (the least effective part of it) and at the sides when it can (if at all when its rushing by)
f**k i dont know - but i do know this - CAI's cant be 'mythbusted' and yield a loss of power over a stock box if so many companies and cars run them etc.
They did shotty research/testing at the very least and cannot be taken credibly - taping a pod on a long tube and blowing a fan at it is not proper research/testing

They should of taken a car without a CAI on the dyno, installed the CAI, tuned for it and then re-tested it. Guarantee you then the results will be FAR more promising...

/end rant

There's also this article. HKS pod didn't do too well.

http://www.3aracing.com.au/HTML%20Folde ... %20Out.pdf

They strapped 2x leaf blowers to the throttle body and put them on max and it didn't nothing.

Vectose wrote:There's also this article. HKS pod didn't do too well.

http://www.3aracing.com.au/HTML%20Folde ... %20Out.pdf

And you believe this was not biased in any way?

silverGPX wrote:They strapped 2x leaf blowers to the throttle body and put them on max and it didn't nothing.

Im sorry, did you expect something? What on earth do you think this will achieve? Also - explain why. Id love a good laugh.

Taz wrote:They put a pod and a fan on a turbo Big Ugly Soap Box Racer call it a cai and expect results.
But hey if a half cocked 2 man team of enthusiasts say its all a load of sh*t rhen I believe them, im sure mutli million dollar race cars and companies are wrong as well as the principles of an internal combustion engine necausw that simple research proves it...

its a DIY show buddy... the point is to make mods people are likely to reproduce... not multi millionaires...chill

SchumieFan wrote:

Taz wrote:They put a pod and a fan on a turbo Big Ugly Soap Box Racer call it a cai and expect results.
But hey if a half cocked 2 man team of enthusiasts say its all a load of sh*t rhen I believe them, im sure mutli million dollar race cars and companies are wrong as well as the principles of an internal combustion engine necausw that simple research proves it...

its a DIY show buddy... the point is to make mods people are likely to reproduce... not multi millionaires...chill

It must be the case that anything to do with cars is riddled with discord, conjecture and conflicting evidence.

Taz wrote:

Vectose wrote:There's also this article. HKS pod didn't do too well.

http://www.3aracing.com.au/HTML%20Folde ... %20Out.pdf

And you believe this was not biased in any way?

No, because it was not done by 3A racing. It was in a Auto Salon magazine. 3A racing are now just hosting it on their site.

at this thread

A real world answer to the OP's original question, my racecar hits 220 on Conrod, that's coming out of Forests Elbow doing maybe 100, downhill then over the rise then downhill again. It's still accelerating when I lift off for the Chase, so have no doubt it would go faster, but you would need a very long straight road. This is from my GPS laptimer (very accurate).

I probably have about the same fwkw as dstocks and azza, maybe a little more. And stability is fine at this speed, but I do have decent coilovers and a functional rear wing (without the wing I think it'd be a little taily lol).

So standing start over the quarter, no way you will see 180-210. Maybe 150 if you're lucky.

And yes the speed limiter is set at 180, but the actual speed will vary based on your wheel/tyre sizes. Easiest way to remove this is just cut the wire to the ECU

And by the way those idiots that do the testing that 'proves' things lol. Are, well... idiots lol!

As with statistics, you can prove or disprove anything you want on a dyno if you know, or don't know, what you're doing

Had to give it a go this morning on the way home
Didn't show any signs of cutting out ¿
Had a lot of extra weight in the car and half a tank, fkn ran out of straight road, so I couldn't keep goin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1rTATyJwdI

It is limited to 180, if yours isn't then it has been fucked with
As for your camera quality, that video showed me nothing and were you really doing 180+km/h while holding your potato camera? Lol

All I have to say, is if the cops see that video and work out who you are, you're f**ked so have fun with that

Lol it's a fukin iPhone 4. I don't no why it came out so sh*t
And yeah it was well past 180 is it really not visible?

kiz wrote:All I have to say, is if the cops see that video and work out who you are, you're f**ked so have fun with that

Yea I've heard that driving with a phone in hand is a pretty hefty fine these days