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Bennoz wrote:

nvr2low wrote:how about you go piss off haha come bring your VTEC YO!!!!! here any day all you will see is my twin exhaust and my tail lights asshole hahahhaha

Quote of the week

should make it my new sig

nvr2low wrote:haha simon he has to buy his VTEC YO!!!!! first and my car should be done before he buys it haha i hope.

Wrong Ben, this is quote of the week!

haha so true ftevolution mate haha. it will be done within a month or they are not getting paid a single cent. i had a look on the job card for my car and their are no hours written on it ahha

nvr2low wrote:haha so true ftevolution mate haha. it will be done within a month or they are not getting paid a single cent. i had a look on the job card for my car and their are no hours written on it ahha

Bro, I hope you are fuckin kidding! I am glad it isn't me who is going to have to pay that bill... May I ask what your budget is? And do they know what it is? I hate to say it, but if there are no hours on the card and the job is done under budget, I think those bastards are gunna fudge the figures to ream you...

I am really feeling sorry for you mate. I agree with what you said in the other thread, do it yourself...

budget is like 5 grand mate. they cant slog me for anywork on the new motor because i have done it all and they cant slog me for the major parts because i bought them all.

they dont know my budget i am not that dum i am defently not telling them that.

Personally, on any major work like this i would be in there everyday and keeping a log of how much work was going on

i have been mate and that is why i am so pissed off.
apart from taking the motor out and the wiring loom, auto shifter and stuff that is all they done i built the new motor and now i am gonan have to do the car 2 if i want it done in a month

Expect it to be there for months mate. Mine has been off the road for almost 8 months

Oh yh so true mate but didn't you have to fabricate the parts and figure out how to do it mate. You have done all that for me and the guy reckoned he could have it done in 10 days.
What is left 2 do!! Braided turbo lines, front actuator,wiring looms, put clutch pedal and clutch line in, put motor in, hook up all old lines and wiring loom, intercooler piping that is all.

nvr2low wrote:Oh yh so true mate but didn't you have to fabricate the parts and figure out how to do it mate. You have done all that for me and the guy reckoned he could have it done in 10 days.
What is left 2 do!! Braided turbo lines, front actuator,wiring looms, put clutch pedal and clutch line in, put motor in, hook up all old lines and wiring loom, intercooler piping that is all.

you make it sound so easy .. go get it & do it yourself lol

It all depends if they're actually capable of doing the work in the timeframe that you want it done.

Things to consider
- If they're the best shop in Darwin .. how far are you going to have to go to get another shop to do the work?
- You're going to look like a tool if you take it home to do yourself & end up having to take it back in again
- Do you know how to do any of it yourself / willing to spend the time to learn?
- Are you prepared to leave it there for the next couple of months as long as the work gets done?

Call Fair Trading tomorrow .. the staff there know what they're talking about & can tell you what your options are ..

Get copies of the work log (take pics on your phone if you need to)
If they haven't got any hours marked on it so far, then legally I'm sure it would mean that they haven't done any of the work.
As FTOEvo said, it's most likely they will just fudge the figures & rape you with the invoicing later.

yeah true mate. All I can say is that I won't know how to do everything mate. I need them to do it buddy but I am doing a lot to try and show that I want it dne and willing to do the work to try and gt it done mate.

yeah, it's bullshit mate.. these places don't seem to realise how important people's cars are to them & how much they're anticipating the day when it's all done & they can drive it home (hopefully without incident)..

If they've got cars sitting there that have been waiting a year or more though, then that should be indication enough .. you've been very patient with them so far, AFAIC ..

They just need to pull their fingers out.. & if they're understaffed, then they need to put on some more people.. maybe offer to work there for free on weekends or in your spare time or something so that you can learn how to do it & give them an extra pair of hands.. i dunno..

Dude, go get yourself a semi competent lawyer, tell them what's going on. Get them to send the workshop a letter demanding work stopped until they can supply you a satisfactory worklog.

If you get a freshly written work log back, then you will know they are bullshitting you.

Stop letting yourself be walked over. IMO $5k for an engine conversion isn't enough.

They say 10 days to do it all, 10 days x 8 hours in a day (since that is ALWAYS what a mechanic means when they say x days) x ~$90 per hour = $7200. THAT's JUST LABOUR!!! What about all of the Sundry items? I work for a software company that writes VMS for Ford, there are a sh*t load of other items they WILL charge you on top of the labour. Don't forget that mechanics time is usually GST EXCLUSIVE too!

Also, I hope that hourly rate isn't what they are charging you, but that is conservative over here for the decent garages...

You SHOULD have warning bells in your head fella, I feel for you, I really do. You ARE going to get screwed (because I guarantee you they won't keep it to 80 hours of work)!

If you aren't doing one yourself, or have friends/family doing it with/for you, an engine swap should never be attempted half heartedly (as in not planned). They are a huge job...

Good luck man, seriously, I do hope it all works out for you.

Seriously guys they are just acting like any normal workshop, i wouldnt be getting worried ....yet, mitch.

But as i say just keep detailed records.

But i do agree with Evolution, i dont see how your going to do this for 5K

well simon they cant charge me anywear near like 3000 for labour as the motor is already built with a gearbox and everything on it. the gear selector cables have been changed that pedals have been changed just not clutch so they cant charge me for doing that. Their running out of the things to charge me for. Putting in motor and intercooler piping and then dyno run is really on what is left for them to do and oh the exhaust y pipe.

I8A4RE wrote:Seriously guys they are just acting like any normal workshop, i wouldnt be getting worried ....yet, mitch.

But as i say just keep detailed records.

But i do agree with Evolution, i dont see how your going to do this for 5K

Agreed .. mostly.

Yes, they're acting like a normal workshop.. but as FTOEvolution said there is reason for warning bells.. the first should have been that they could do it in 10 days.. I can't even get my car serviced in 7 days even after leaving it there for a week & that was for a 1/2 hour / 1 hour job ..

I think it's a bit far to get a lawyer right now.. he just needs some advice on his options should things take a turn for the worse .. calling fair trading for advice is about as far as it needs to go right now..

It's just gonna piss off the workshop & screw his chances of being able to get it done in Darwin if he gets solicitors involved .. as Simon said, keep thorough logs of work being done & keep going back every day or so to check up on them.

Mitch isn't going into it blindly though, he's well aware of all the possibilities .. it's just a shame to see it happen..

thanks a lot mate yeah i am getting ready to blow up at them but i know if i do it will make it even worse so yeah. i really dont think my car is going to be ready for powercruise which means no fun for me

nvr2low wrote:thanks a lot mate yeah i am getting ready to blow up at them but i know if i do it will make it even worse so yeah. i really dont think my car is going to be ready for powercruise which means no fun for me

Yeah, I don't like your chances .. but there's always next year.. & I don' think you're gonna have any problems having fun with the car without some Powercruise thing

Honestly .. I don't know how anyone could do a major car project .. the anticipation just waiting for the car would be worse than death!

yeah but racing around the track then drag racing down the longest straight in australia hah so much fun haha. yh mate it is killing me i want my baby back haha.
i think i am gonna run out of rego before the car even gets back on the road

so he's going from a GPvR to a VTEC YO!!!!! single cam civic?

Why would you do that? I'm going the other way around.