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Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:45 am
by silverGPX
Bennoz wrote:Shane001 wrote:Bennoz wrote:Oh & btw, these things are a pain in ass to align without taking your wheels off to do it. My tyre guy wasn't impressed!
Your tyre guy's a pussy
Two long 26mm spanners from underneath, bit tricky but not impossible, I did it on stands multiple times, he has a hoist.
Needless to say, after that wheel alignment, I was the proud owner of 2 long 26mm ring spanners

The most f**king annoying thing ever lol. I'm gonna have to take mine to a proper suspension shop to get mine done again. I reckon they didn't adjust the arms at all due to lazyness.
Also do u think that adjusting at the arm and at the camber bolts have different effects with the whole geometry?
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:03 pm
by Shane001
Bennoz wrote:Shane001 wrote:Bennoz wrote:Oh & btw, these things are a pain in ass to align without taking your wheels off to do it. My tyre guy wasn't impressed!
Your tyre guy's a pussy
Two long 26mm spanners from underneath, bit tricky but not impossible, I did it on stands multiple times, he has a hoist.
Needless to say, after that wheel alignment, I was the proud owner of 2 long 26mm ring spanners

lol, yeah after selling off the FTO, I've got two nice big shiny ones that I'll probably never use again
They do look kind of important sitting in my toolbox though

Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:04 pm
by Shane001
silverGPX wrote:
Also do u think that adjusting at the arm and at the camber bolts have different effects with the whole geometry?
Yes, they both affect each other. Lay under the car (with it on stands) and have a good look to understand how it all works.
It's not pretty for adjustability, just not built for it.
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:41 pm
by silverGPX
So if they adjusted the right side with more camber on the hard race arm and less on the lower control arm and the left side they adjusted more on the lower control arm than the hard race arm however, the camber the same -2 on both wheels.
Would it affect the way the wheel cambers in going over bumps?
Due to the fact the camber is adjusted at different points on the trailing arm?
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:42 pm
by silverGPX
Also the same with toe.
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:11 pm
by Bennoz
Altering the camber from either point will effect your toe. Probably by different amounts because of the different locations where the Megan arm connects to the trailing arm vs where the lower control joins it.
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:03 am
by shadowarrior
Quick question. If I am putting in an offset rear trailing arm bush, should I also put an offset front control arm front bush to match? Am changing all the bushes anyways, so thinking if I need offset control arm bush or the regular one.
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:02 am
by Sahin
shadowarrior wrote:Quick question. If I am putting in an offset rear trailing arm bush, should I also put an offset front control arm front bush to match? Am changing all the bushes anyways, so thinking if I need offset control arm bush or the regular one.
What? Lol
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:23 am
by shadowarrior
Sahin wrote:shadowarrior wrote:Quick question. If I am putting in an offset rear trailing arm bush, should I also put an offset front control arm front bush to match? Am changing all the bushes anyways, so thinking if I need offset control arm bush or the regular one.
What? Lol
Eh I think either the front or the rear bushing of the front control arm has an offset setting to match the rear trailing arm's offset?
Don't blame me...vegemite gave me that info!

Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:28 am
by Sahin
shadowarrior wrote:Sahin wrote:shadowarrior wrote:Quick question. If I am putting in an offset rear trailing arm bush, should I also put an offset front control arm front bush to match? Am changing all the bushes anyways, so thinking if I need offset control arm bush or the regular one.
What? Lol
Eh I think either the front or the rear bushing of the front control arm has an offset setting to match the rear trailing arm's offset?
Don't blame me...vegemite gave me that info!

Our suspension is all independent you don't need offset front bushes just because you have offset rear bushes
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:48 am
by silverGPX
Its up to you.
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:04 pm
by shadowarrior
Fulcrum here doesn't have any stock of SPF2004 18K (Rear swaybar mount bushes for the GPX). Neither does Nolathane list them on their website. Any other manufacturer/part number for them?
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:23 pm
by Sahin
shadowarrior wrote:Fulcrum here doesn't have any stock of SPF2004 18K (Rear swaybar mount bushes for the GPX). Neither does Nolathane list them on their website. Any other manufacturer/part number for them?
If I remember correctly you get them from brakes direct
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:31 pm
by shadowarrior
Thanks mate, yeah I sent them a request for order as well since they didn't have any in stock.
Btw, any idea what spf1502xk for rear bush of front control arm does (it says maximum caster in the website).
Am grabbing all the bushes from Dwayne since he ordered them for his car but never installed them. He has the 1502xk with him.
http://www.superpro.com.au/superpro-parts/SPF1502XK
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:38 pm
by shadowarrior
Anti-lift/Caster Kit - is designed to add +0.5 deg static caster to both
front wheels while changing the nature of front anti-dive and lift
geometry. The low compliance bush also maintains higher dynamic
positive caster.
errr...so... will there be anything wrong if I put these on?

Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:18 am
by silverGPX
If you messaged or contacted me dude i could of walked you through the whole lot.
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:05 pm
by shadowarrior
Cheers mate, will ping you on FB next time.
In other news, according to Brakes Direct Super Pro does not have any 18k in stock and has no updates regarding manufacturing dates...they have 17k max for the rear swaybar bush. Any way we can squeeze the 17k instead for the swaybar instead?
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:35 pm
by silverGPX
No mate not recommended. Try fulcrum authorized dealer.
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:55 pm
by shadowarrior
silverGPX wrote:No mate not recommended. Try fulcrum authorized dealer.
I have even called Fulcrum at Brissy.... no go :\
Re: The Suspension Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:01 pm
by silverGPX
Yeah they said that to me a year or so ago so I let it go, but then Shane was selling an aftermarket rear sway with bushes so I grabbed that.
Try Nolathane.
Failing that Camskill.
Failing that OEM rubber from amayama.
Failing that buy a white line one.