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Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:29 pm
by Vectose
All of this still doesn't explain why it isn't cranking though. :lol:

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:02 pm
by destinationtoby
Vectose wrote:All of this still doesn't explain why it isn't cranking though. :lol:
This^ :lol:

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:11 pm
by destinationtoby
The battery is good.
The starter is good
There's 12volts going to the starter from the battery, but there's no 12v coming from the small signal wire to the starter when the ignition is turned (all the way).

I've traced the wire back to the ECU which is mounted on the passenger footwell just above the flare .. Is it an ECU? I thought the ecu is the thing that looks identical to this, but it's under the stereo surround & dash. So we have two ECU's ???

I've been told it could easily be a faulty ignition switch, but if I can't trace the wire back to the switch (because it goes to this ecu) than I cant test it :(


SO, I know it's something that is attached to this wire.
Is more likely to be the ignition switch or the ecu? What else could it be.

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:31 pm
by Vectose
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Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:34 pm
by PHIL069
Bad IFS?

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:37 pm
by SchumieFan
It won't crank if the cam sensor isn't plugged in... your wiring doesn't make sense,

Is your crank angle sensor plugged in? And is your cam sensor plugged in?

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:44 pm
by Vectose
SchumieFan wrote:It won't crank if the cam sensor isn't plugged in... your wiring doesn't make sense,

Is your crank angle sensor plugged in? And is your cam sensor plugged in?
Yes It will, It just won't fire. I've had both crank and cam angle sensors disconnected and it cranked.

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:51 pm
by Vectose
Used to be an auto, checked the inhibitor switch is still bypassed?

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:51 pm
by destinationtoby
I'm not sure about that sensors, I think they are plugged in and phil could be right about me being a complete stupid c**t :lol: I've probably got both ends under that blue sh*t. I shall check in the morning.


Is the engine control system the ecu? The wire From the starter in black and red, but like I said, I lose it after it goes to the computer thingy

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:52 pm
by destinationtoby
Vectose wrote:Used to be an auto, checked the inhibitor switch is still bypassed?
Nope I'm not sure.. Did I bypass it when doing the conversion?

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:53 pm
by Vectose
You would have had to. Inhibitor switch prevents you from starting the car when not in park.

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:55 pm
by destinationtoby
Ah ok, I think it was just a matter of joining two wires. I'll try and dig up the DIY conversion write up and see.

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:58 am
by SchumieFan
Vectose wrote:
SchumieFan wrote:It won't crank if the cam sensor isn't plugged in... your wiring doesn't make sense,

Is your crank angle sensor plugged in? And is your cam sensor plugged in?
Yes It will, It just won't fire. I've had both crank and cam angle sensors disconnected and it cranked.
Yeah you're right... me too... forget it... too many long necks

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:12 am
by destinationtoby
PHIL069 wrote:?
Maybe you need to get rid of that silly blue conduit so you can follow the wire.
I bet one end has the extra plug and the other end has the cut wires, in which case...pull it out and throw it to hell and smack yourself on the back of your head!!!

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:16 am
by destinationtoby
Can I wire a switch to the starter? Like a direct wire from the battery with a switch inbetween? How would I do this.

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:33 am
by PHIL069
You can give it a quick hotwire.
Leave the key off for now.


Do this by hand lying under the car, make sure the car is on stands.
Grab a screw driver or wire or simular and contact the starter motor solonoid input terminal (B terminal)(wire from positive battery) to the switching wire (S Terminal)(Wire coming from ignition), when you make contact the starter should engage and run. Don't run it for moar than 10 seconds.
If it works, then turn the key to the run/on position and do it again, see if the engine fires and runs. As soon as the engine runs disconnect the wire.

....and :(D): @ the plug :roll:

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:14 am
by SchumieFan
And that was the last post Toby ever made

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:45 am
by Shhtuart
The new engine wouldn't have the inhibitor rewired lol. That's probably it.

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:06 pm
by destinationtoby
Shhtuart wrote:The new engine wouldn't have the inhibitor rewired lol. That's probably it.
This was it ! But, it was never wired in from when I did the conversion, yet it had been starting fine this whole time 8O strange.


So she's running, but! The belts are squeaking like crazy. Are they too loose or too tight?

Re: Neeeeed Help !!!!

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:25 pm
by Daniel2019
Check tension by hand, you'll be able to figure it out pretty quickly.