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Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:25 am
by Daniel2019
PHIL069 wrote:Daniel2019 wrote:That's unfair, I can only do 100km/h!
Let's be responsible and just compare dyno figures.
I'm hoping for 140kw on a good day

A race is a race

and you said race.
You challenged so I get to choose
Dyno is no race

Fine, fine. I'll race you... but we have to stick to speed limits.
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:26 am
by bjk
Daniel2019 wrote:Well, if I aim high then there's always potential, but if I aim for a mediocre 120kw then I'm not going to get anywhere.
If dstocks can push 135+ with just an intake, exhaust and haltech (I think that was all?) then surely if I go with a bigger TB and some internal work as well as the zorst, intake and haltech then I think 140 is realistic.
True. The headwork has got to be worth the fact that his engine has only just recently done 100,000 kms. How much is the haltech you're looking at?
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:26 am
by PHIL069
Daniel2019 wrote:PHIL069 wrote:Daniel2019 wrote:That's unfair, I can only do 100km/h!
Let's be responsible and just compare dyno figures.
I'm hoping for 140kw on a good day

A race is a race

and you said race.
You challenged so I get to choose
Dyno is no race

Fine, fine. I'll race you... but we have to stick to speed limits.
Yeah sure I will

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:27 am
by Vectose
Daniel2019 wrote:Well, if I aim high then there's always potential, but if I aim for a mediocre 120kw then I'm not going to get anywhere.
If dstocks can push 135+ with just an intake, exhaust and haltech (I think that was all?) then surely if I go with a bigger TB and some internal work as well as the zorst, intake and haltech then I think 140 is realistic.
Looked at Aza's sig lately?
And I believe Dwayne was at 133kw.
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:28 am
by Daniel2019
bjk wrote:Daniel2019 wrote:Well, if I aim high then there's always potential, but if I aim for a mediocre 120kw then I'm not going to get anywhere.
If dstocks can push 135+ with just an intake, exhaust and haltech (I think that was all?) then surely if I go with a bigger TB and some internal work as well as the zorst, intake and haltech then I think 140 is realistic.
True. The headwork has got to be worth the fact that his engine has only just recently done 100,000 kms. How much is the haltech you're looking at?
Haven't looked into anything ECU related yet, I'm just trying to get the bastard running first.
Decided haltech because it seems to be fairly popular and give some decent gains. Aza and dstocks have proven this.
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:28 am
by bjk
Daniel2019 wrote:bjk wrote:Daniel2019 wrote:Well, if I aim high then there's always potential, but if I aim for a mediocre 120kw then I'm not going to get anywhere.
If dstocks can push 135+ with just an intake, exhaust and haltech (I think that was all?) then surely if I go with a bigger TB and some internal work as well as the zorst, intake and haltech then I think 140 is realistic.
True. The headwork has got to be worth the fact that his engine has only just recently done 100,000 kms. How much is the haltech you're looking at?
Haven't looked into anything ECU related yet, I'm just trying to get the bastard running first.
Decided haltech because it seems to be fairly popular and give some decent gains. Aza and dstocks have proven this.
Keep us posted, you'll likely get there before I will.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:29 am
by Daniel2019
Vectose wrote:Daniel2019 wrote:Well, if I aim high then there's always potential, but if I aim for a mediocre 120kw then I'm not going to get anywhere.
If dstocks can push 135+ with just an intake, exhaust and haltech (I think that was all?) then surely if I go with a bigger TB and some internal work as well as the zorst, intake and haltech then I think 140 is realistic.
Looked at Aza's sig lately?
And I believe Dwayne was at 133kw.
I have, but wasn't that with the track exhaust?
Still, 133 with just a tune, exhaust and intake. Surely with ported heads and a bigger TB fresh after a rebuild would make 140 realistic.
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:31 am
by Vectose
phunkydude wrote:
For reference, aza for his gpvr fto (lighter than gpx) to 137kws atw
with,
-port and polished
-port matched
-compression bumped up a little
-cold air intake + ram pipe
-de-cat / straight flow pipe
-haltech management tuned
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:33 am
by Daniel2019
Yep. Still, I'm aiming for 140. I think it's realistic.
Also wasn't that with stock headers?
140 is the goal! Aim high!
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:34 am
by Vectose

Let's hope you find a UAS pipe
But nah, I am aiming for a similar number. Will try and get the best I can, not setting goals only to be disappointed.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:36 am
by bjk
Could always suck it up and buy one new.
Puns, yeah!
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:37 am
by Daniel2019
I will be happy with 135. I figure the higher I am the higher I'll achieve. If 125 is the goal then its limited.
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:38 am
by Daniel2019
bjk wrote:Could always suck it up and buy one new.
Puns, yeah!
Wouldn't give you 140. They do 147kw at the flywheel. The figures that we're talking about are ATW figures, not flywheel/crank.
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:39 am
by bjk
Daniel2019 wrote:bjk wrote:Could always suck it up and buy one new.
Puns, yeah!
Wouldn't give you 140. They do 147kw at the flywheel. The figures that we're talking about are ATW figures, not flywheel/crank.
I meant the UAS pipe.
Hence the pun.
Don't make me explain it!

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:40 am
by Vectose
Also need to get enough people interested in it so they actually make them.
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:43 am
by Daniel2019
bjk wrote:Daniel2019 wrote:bjk wrote:Could always suck it up and buy one new.
Puns, yeah!
Wouldn't give you 140. They do 147kw at the flywheel. The figures that we're talking about are ATW figures, not flywheel/crank.
I meant the UAS pipe.
Hence the pun.
Don't make me explain it!

My bad, I thought you meant a new FTO.. Was kinda

ing there for a moment
ARC chamber would also work. Or stainless intake like fto-007 has, or something similar.
Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:44 am
by bjk
Vectose wrote:Also need to get enough people interested in it so they actually make them.
I emailed them about getting them made separately, but I didn't seem to get the impression they were currently out of stock. Just that if it was for parts of the kit then they'd need a group. I could be wrong though.
Don't worry Daniel, it's just because you guys are commenting too fast.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:45 am
by Vectose
Been tested.
Whale d*ck is the king of intake pipes.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:46 am
by PHIL069
Daniel2019 wrote:ARC chamber would also work. Or stainless intake like fto-007 has, or something similar.
You can't say that around Vectose....You are about to get a lecture
EDIT: Oh crap my warning was 1 min too late

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:47 am
by bjk
PHIL069 wrote:Daniel2019 wrote:ARC chamber would also work. Or stainless intake like fto-007 has, or something similar.
You can't say that around Vectose....You are about to get a lecture

too late.
don't you get the screen that says someone has commented before you?