FTO AUSTRALIA

mrfto wrote:Does Mitsubishi Japan have any intentions to import some sporty cars into Australia?

The EVO VIII will be available here in the next month or two. I'd take it over an Eclipse any day.

why does a waterpump for an FTO cost over $500.00 when a N1 GTR waterpump retails in australia for $150.00


this isn't really a question just venting some frustration

smorison wrote:why does a waterpump for an FTO cost over $500.00 when a N1 GTR waterpump retails in australia for $150.00


this isn't really a question just venting some frustration

HUH?!

I got my full timing belt change, all belts, tensioners, oil seals, including water pump done for SGD $1000!

AUD500 for i freaking waterpump is a rip off!

HEHE, that will be Mitsubishi Australia’s mark up.

I know they would have a mark up on import parts of at least 150%.

I am currently trying to see if we can buy parts directly from Mitsubishi Japan.
That way we would not pay the mark up.

There will be a way to do this.

Black_FTOGPX wrote: I know they would have a mark up on import parts of at least 150%.

UAS is looking at Japan and America (hoping that the Eclipse or something shares the same waterpump).... this will reduce the price for everyone else

Do you know the part # for the water pump?

The FTO comes with 166cc/min injectors and you can get 210, 240, 275, 300, 330, 350 and 400cc/min injectors in various Mitsubishi cars. Are the injectors interchangable at all and what are the P/N for the various sizes (or what car(s) are they found in)?

Brian

Black_FTOGPX wrote:Do you know the part # for the water pump?

My trusty Mitsubishi CAPS program says...

MD302010 - WATER PUMP ASSY

Double-check this please before ordering crazily expensive parts!

It's used in loads of different Mitsys, according to CAPS:

CB6A CK6A EA4W EA5W EC4W EC5A EC5W E53A E54A E64A E74A E84A

CB6A is Lancer/Mirage 1600(V6)/2WD(SEDAN)
CK6A is Lancer/Mirage 1800(V6)/2WD(SEDAN)
EC5A is Galant 2500/4WD
E53A is Galant 1800SOHC4VALVE-MPI/2WD
E54A is Galant 2000 MPI/2WD(MULTI LINK)
E6/E7/E8 are Galants of increasing excitingness.

- Rich

Adriano wrote:i wonder where we can get some CAD drawings of the FTO....
some more precise technical blueprints rather than the once we get from the manual
would be nice if we have that info...

Guy’s this might sound a bit dumb but just so there is no confusion what does CAD stand for?

Joel, CAD stands for Computer Aided Design or Computer Assisted Design (whichever sounds more l337 for you, it's still the same shiat)

on a more serious note, are FTO injectors mounted as top feed or side feed?

2. what is the Co efficent of drag for the FTO GPX

Co efficent is that right or should it be Co efficient ?

Sorry guys its just that im drafting the email up and i know for a fact when you have a language difference in emails , having things spelt incorrectly can cause huge confusion.

co-efficient

...and remember to add with this question what is the "frontal area" of the FTO?

Ok guy's questions have gone off to Mitsubishi. I would give them a week or two to get back to us.
As they are pretty busy trying to save them selves at the moment.

you're a legend Joel!

any word back yet

I wrote my contact a friendly reminder email yesterday. He said he needs some more time to answer all the questions in detail. So we might have to wait another week or so.

better late than never

Hi guys, i got an email this morning from one of my contacts.

He has answered some of the questions, but says some were to hard as he cannot find the correct person to contact.(understandable in a company with thousands of employees and your looking for one!)

I will forward any unanswered question to my other contacts. Most of the technical questions like about the fuel pumps etc, I should be able to have an answer for by next week.

P.S Danny he could not find the person for your co-efficient drag questions, but i think i might know which department to forward them to.
Give me another week or so and i should be able to have em anserwerd.

If you have any follow up questions my contact said he is happy to answer them and appoligises that he could not answer them all.


What is the minimum rating(92/95/98/100) of petrol suitable for use on
all grades of FTOs?

For 1.8L S4 MPI: 92 octane
For 2.0L V6 D4 MPI: 98 octane
For 2.0L V6 D4 MIVEC MPI: 100 octane

(2) Will the usage of a lower octane petrol result in poor economy and lack
of power/response

Yes

(3) On detecting pre-ignition, does the FTO's engine ECU simply retard
timing for a few seconds, or does it fully switch over to a low quality
fuel timing arrangement?

Ignition timing retard type

If how long before the engine ECU will again attempt to advance the timing
back to "good quality fuel" mode?

Ignition timing retard cancelation may require more than 100
kilometers drive (I was informed from a engineer before)

it possible for us to have access to some CAD (Computer Aided
design) drawings of the FTO.

No
FTO drawings are drawn through old MMC original CAD system.
This is basically 2 dimensional, and not accessible


(5) Is it possible for us to have access to technical blueprints of the
FTO.

Basically, Mitsubishi does not supply any copy of drawing to outside


6) Is it possible for us to be supplied wiring diagrams for the GR model?,
as currently the only information we have is for the GPX.

Was probably yes, on the service shop manual book
Sorry, I cannot find out the service shop manual in Tokyo HQ

(7) what is the most power the FTO Chassis can handle

FTO chassis durability was only tested with planed engine
specification in Mitsubishi

10)What is the Co efficient of drag for the FTO Gpx Nakaya Tune

This model is planed by a Mitsubishi local dealer
So, I think the Nakaya Tune FTO does not have drug coefficient data

(11) What are the specifications of the FTO GP. This is a pre face lift
model. It seems to be rare and have only seen them for sale in Japan on
a few occasions.

This model was planed as stripped off version of GPX, specially
targeting the young potential users
I cannot recall the detail of GP, but this model has three
exterior color, may be in blue, black, and red, with matched
front seat covers with knitted FTO logo

(15) Can you use the torque specifications from the 6A12 ( for engine
rebuilding )for tightening the bolts on a 6A13 TT ( Head bolts, Big ends
and Main Bearing Caps etc)

I think there are not existing such kind of data

(16) Is there a workshop manual in English for the post 1996 VR4 Galant
6A13 TT

I am not familiar with 1996 Galant, but may be existing

20) Why was the fto discontinued in 2000 when if Mitsubishi had marketed
the car overseas it would have sold much better and would probably still be
around today as another face lifted model. The world wide interest in the
car and cult status the fto is achieving proves my point. Are we likely to
see another incarnation of the fto?

The reason is the shrinkage of sales volume
The successor of FTO was not planed, also not expected

Was the 6A12 engine ever tested with a supercharger?

No

(22) Would the 6A12 be suitable for supercharging?

Problem is the size of fuel injector capacity

(23) Are we ever likely to see an eclipse sold in Australia??

Eclipse was sold in US, Caribbean, Europe, Taiwan, and Japan
Some Eclipse are sold through US Army

(24) I also desperately want the English version of the GPX computer wiring
diagram.

FTO was basically sold only in Japan
So, no service shop manual in English is existing

(25)And what type of airflow does the GPX have?

Volume Density type, similar system of Bosch D-Jetronic

30) Are FTO Fuel injectors mounted as top feed or side feed?

Side feed on intake

35) Where there any recalls done on the FTO?

Recently announced one recall on FTO

Black_FTOGPX wrote: (1)What is the minimum rating(92/95/98/100) of petrol suitable for use on
all grades of FTOs?

For 1.8L S4 MPI: 92 octane
For 2.0L V6 D4 MPI: 98 octane
For 2.0L V6 D4 MIVEC MPI: 100 octane


35) Where there any recalls done on the FTO?

Recently announced one recall on FTO

1) damn...we're all screwed then
and
35) what was the recall for???

SilentBob

35) what was the recall for???

Yeah, he could of told us this!

I will write back and ask.