wont idle when cold

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:35 pm

Hmm I'm lost. Maybe change cars with your son.

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:59 am

lol i tried that !!!!!!!

incoming · Post by **incoming** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:53 pm

i have the same problem.
car wants to stall on cold starts. had the stepper cleaned.
if i hold the accel pedal down for a bit it will idle fine and wont stall.
i have tried the idle screw but dont want to turn it up a lot and idle past 1000rpm in traffic..

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:26 pm

1 1/2 turns out from closed seems right for my car.

bec002 · Post by **bec002** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:42 pm

hey good to know someone else has this same problem
my fto gpx 1996 trip does it as well
had a mechanic look at it but he couldnt find anything wrong with it
would be good to know what it is

thanks

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:16 pm

ive been busy with re-assembly the last few days and now i have the wheels off for painting, next thing i'll try is idle position sensor, then any other sensor i can find, follow the wire loom. i will find the problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:27 am

ok, i found 2 broken wires in the stepper plug, maybe its from me taking it off and on so many times, maybe it's been the problem all along??? was covered in tape so i never saw it before now. fingers crossed this was the problem,
new plug is all wired up and have the battery on charge and will try it again tomorrow.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:07 pm

col2560 wrote:ok, i found 2 broken wires in the stepper plug, maybe its from me taking it off and on so many times, maybe it's been the problem all along??? was covered in tape so i never saw it before now. fingers crossed this was the problem,
new plug is all wired up and have the battery on charge and will try it again tomorrow.

So how was your stepper working for a couple of days then here and there???????

Back to my original post check your wiring!!!

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:09 pm

re-wired the plug and reset the cpu, still won't start. next is to swap out the cpu, its the only thing left.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:43 pm

Get a guy out mate they will have it sorted for you quick as. By the sounds of it, it will be a whole heap cheaper for you as well.

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:27 pm

i got my son's cpu to swap out and try, so will only cost me some time, which atm i got plenty of, unless mine is shot, then im sure dstocks will have a 2nd hand one. its good to have a spare car in the driveway

update;
well it aint the CPU. i guess i have to admit defeat

who will be able to diagnose it?? just an auto electrician??

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:43 am

did you re wire it correctly?

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:46 am

Danielk · Post by **Danielk** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:10 pm

I'm having similar issues aswell.

Sometimes wont start on first go when its cold in the morning.

koolio1234 · Post by **koolio1234** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:33 am

Danielk wrote:I'm having similar issues aswell.

Sometimes wont start on first go when its cold in the morning.

Seems to be a common issue.

I have it as well on some really cold mornings. Might have something to do with the stepper motor. May need replacing.

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:47 pm

I8A4RE wrote:did you re wire it correctly?

I been thinking about the wiring again and thought I better check it one more time,
HAPPY days people !!!!!! it's working !!!!!!!!!!
I remembered there were 2 red wires, one had a silver band and one was plain, so today I thought I might just swap them around and try it again, BINGO. started first kick and idled perfectly, smooth as silk.
So I'm guessing it was the broken wire/wires all along. I hate electrical problems !!!!!! gimme a blown head gasket any day !!!!!
In the end, apart from a few sleepless nights, all it cost me was a new stepper and a lot of hours hunched over the engine bay. My son's car got the new stepper as I swapped his into my car, so it's all good...
Many thanks to all who offered advice, I would be lost without you all and a lot poorer..

Post by **Bennoz** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:37 pm

col2560 wrote: I hate electrical problems !!!!!! gimme a blown head gasket any day !!!!!

Haha! Well done mate, yeah im with you, gimmie a mechanical failure any day of the week!

Last time I did any wiring it was for a stereo & I almost burnt the car to the ground

col2560 · Post by **col2560** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:05 am

well, on this car i replaced the Kenwood head unit and speakers, but i replaced it with another Kenwood unit so i could just "plug n go", no re-wiring, was a 30 minute job

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:16 am

About f*%ken time lol.

No worries mate glad we can help. x3 on the electrical issues, I hate them.