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I8A4RE wrote:im not sure if im understanding you right, as your post only contained one full stoip and no other punctuation.

So if i am understanding you correctly, your saying you dont use engine breaking cause you dont want to stress your engine?? If this is the case, all i ask is.......

Do you ever drive your car hard eg round hills etc etc?? Or do drive like a granny all the time?

And by the way, this:

Boris wrote:The quickest way to stop is actually without engine braking, as when you engine brake the brakes not only stop your car but have to slow your engine down too.

Is absolutely correct. When you're in gear & pulling up, your brakes are clamping on the discs, the discs are connected to your driveshafts, which are still connected to the drivetrain, the drivetrain is connected to the engine. So do the math.

Im not talking about engine breaking "only" vs using brakes "only", cause i definitly agree. I am talking about using a combination of brakes and engine breaking. As previously stated, you use engine breaking with breaks for a more controlled brake etc etc.

WTF you talking about??? If your looking for a controlled brake then obviously your looking at race speeds, as brakes are more than adequate for road use. At race speed using your engine to brake will usually upset the balance of the vehicle and sometimes even locking up the drive wheels.

Lets look at what boris said
If you are entering a corner cruising, use your brakes. If you are on the track or are going for it downshifting is ok for keeping your RPM up for the corner exit.

Im sorry if i dont agree but i think that is BS. Even cruising if you enter a corner slightly faster (but not racing) than the optimum speed your now having to break in the corner. Now even when your doing driving lesson as a lerner you get taught that is a big NO NO. Now lets say, we add rain... breaking through the corner...... All i say is good luck

I8A4RE wrote:

Boris wrote:

If you are entering a corner cruising, use your brakes. If you are on the track or are going for it downshifting is ok for keeping your RPM up for the corner exit.

Im sorry if i dont agree but i think that is BS. Even cruising if you enter a corner slightly faster (but not racing) than the optimum speed your now having to break in the corner. Now even when your doing driving lesson as a lerner you get taught that is a big NO NO. Now lets say, we add rain... breaking through the corner...... All i say is good luck

Simon, I never said you brake in the actual corner. You brake with or without engine braking before the corner, that's 101 of basic driving like you said.

All I meant to say in my quoted sentence was if you are just cruising around, I personally would be using only my brakes most of the time. If I was driving with spirit, yes I would use engine braking for more control and faster corner exits.

So when are you changing gear, if your not changing before the corner..... during or after the apex? Why I ask is, apart from the potential performance benefits of down shifting before the corner, it is also about safety. No one should ever be rolling or coasting round a corner.

WTF you talking about??? If your looking for a controlled brake then obviously your looking at race speeds, as brakes are more than adequate for road use. At race speed using your engine to brake will usually upset the balance of the vehicle and sometimes even locking up the drive wheels.