If you want an AWD turbo FTO here is your chance

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:52 am

Trust me the AWD thing will never happen and if it does they are fucked in the head because the price of EVO 7s and 8s in the japan at the moment you could import one cheaper than what it would cost to AWD a FTO.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:06 am

barfy wrote:Trust me the AWD thing will never happen and if it does they are fucked in the head because the price of EVO 7s and 8s in the japan at the moment you could import one cheaper than what it would cost to AWD a FTO.

But EVO's look like arse..

besides, I reckon I'd prefer a RWD FTO

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:10 am

Yeh but you only get to see the back of evos

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:25 am

lol, even still .. their ass looks like arse.

I can think of a lot of cars that can outrun an EVO ... but that doesn't make them good cars either..

If Mitsi can take the chassis & running gear of an evo & put a lightweight & good looking shell on it, then that would be a car worth buying..

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:31 am

I will admit the FTO is sexy, but done right the EVO can be just as sexy too

Once i have finished mine in the looks department (still doing performance mods) i will upload some pics

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:56 am

barfy wrote:I will admit the FTO is sexy, but done right the EVO can be just as sexy too

Once i have finished mine in the looks department (still doing performance mods) i will upload some pics

done right the EVO can be just as sexy too

omg ... EVO & Sexy should not even be used in the same sentence...

As much as I love arguing with EVO fanboys over how "good" they are .. I will just say what I've said before .. EVO's are a good car .. 'Mechanically' .. but a 'sexy' car they are not. Decent power & decent handling alone don't make a good car IMO..
No matter how you dress it up, or accessorise it.. it will always be ugly & it will always just look like a boofhead version of the Lancer. And for the kind of money you're looking at, and how much you still have to spend on them once you've got one, there are plenty of other good cars that I would prefer to buy..
That said, they have done pretty well on the interior though.

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:59 am

Espcailly the leather option which i have

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:16 pm

mr-charisma wrote:
barfy wrote:I will admit the FTO is sexy, but done right the EVO can be just as sexy too

Once i have finished mine in the looks department (still doing performance mods) i will upload some pics

done right the EVO can be just as sexy too
omg ... EVO & Sexy should not even be used in the same sentence...

As much as I love arguing with EVO fanboys over how "good" they are .. I will just say what I've said before .. EVO's are a good car .. 'Mechanically' .. but a 'sexy' car they are not. Decent power & decent handling alone don't make a good car IMO..
No matter how you dress it up, or accessorise it.. it will always be ugly & it will always just look like a boofhead version of the Lancer. And for the kind of money you're looking at, and how much you still have to spend on them once you've got one, there are plenty of other good cars that I would prefer to buy..
That said, they have done pretty well on the interior though.

OMG MR Charisma we can finally agree on something BARFY seriously why are you even a member???? No seriously WHY????

Eww look at me i got an EVO.

EVO are ugly as sin, why would some one want to AWD an FTO (a) cause hasnt been done in AU (that i know of) (b) Cause they would rather throw 100k into an FTO than spend 60k on a ugly ass EVO.

BUt at the end of the day let ppl dream, your the same type of ppl that said the earth was flat or man will never walk on the moon.

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:55 pm

i dont know why you guys are discussing evo vs fto...

thats just silly...

evo looks nice it a beasty staunch get the f**k out of my way look

fto looks more sleek and smooth

depends on peoples tastes man!

scremn · Post by **scremn** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:14 am

FTO definately has a better shape but I'd be hard pressed to say an Evo is ugly. Just good looking in a different way. Couple of my favourites:

Anyone know if you can buy this kit/lip? This FTO is sick (although its a model), they look the best low.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:22 am

mr-charisma wrote:
barfy wrote:I will admit the FTO is sexy, but done right the EVO can be just as sexy too

Once i have finished mine in the looks department (still doing performance mods) i will upload some pics

done right the EVO can be just as sexy too
omg ... EVO & Sexy should not even be used in the same sentence...

As much as I love arguing with EVO fanboys over how "good" they are .. I will just say what I've said before .. EVO's are a good car .. 'Mechanically' .. but a 'sexy' car they are not. Decent power & decent handling alone don't make a good car IMO..
No matter how you dress it up, or accessorise it.. it will always be ugly & it will always just look like a boofhead version of the Lancer. And for the kind of money you're looking at, and how much you still have to spend on them once you've got one, there are plenty of other good cars that I would prefer to buy..
That said, they have done pretty well on the interior though.

So if Decent power & decent handling dont make a good car...aparent good looks does? dont tell me fwd with about 100 kw atw is good power these days as with everything its old.

When I'm blasting around the track every other weekend I'm sure glad I dont have only 95kw under the hood with FWD and some cheap arse bob jane rims. But I can take an EVO doen there and have a great time...becuase its a kick arse car.

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:48 am

I8AFRE wrote:
mr-charisma wrote:
barfy wrote:I will admit the FTO is sexy, but done right the EVO can be just as sexy too

Once i have finished mine in the looks department (still doing performance mods) i will upload some pics

done right the EVO can be just as sexy too
omg ... EVO & Sexy should not even be used in the same sentence...

As much as I love arguing with EVO fanboys over how "good" they are .. I will just say what I've said before .. EVO's are a good car .. 'Mechanically' .. but a 'sexy' car they are not. Decent power & decent handling alone don't make a good car IMO..
No matter how you dress it up, or accessorise it.. it will always be ugly & it will always just look like a boofhead version of the Lancer. And for the kind of money you're looking at, and how much you still have to spend on them once you've got one, there are plenty of other good cars that I would prefer to buy..
That said, they have done pretty well on the interior though.
OMG MR Charisma we can finally agree on something BARFY seriously why are you even a member???? No seriously WHY????

Eww look at me i got an EVO.

EVO are ugly as sin, why would some one want to AWD an FTO (a) cause hasnt been done in AU (that i know of) (b) Cause they would rather throw 100k into an FTO than spend 60k on a ugly ass EVO.

BUt at the end of the day let ppl dream, your the same type of ppl that said the earth was flat or man will never walk on the moon.

Excuse me ? Who the f**k pulled your cord ? Me and Charisma were having a friendly debate and you come along with your 2 cents. Why am i a member u ask because i had a FTO once probably way before u even knew what a FTO was. And trust me it looked a hell of a lot better than that kermit looking thing u drive

Delvance · Post by **Delvance** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:25 am

Now now...calm down lol

Who cares now anyways...looks are subjective, some think fto is horn and evo is dogcrap and then some worship evo and spit on fto. Big deal.

Ownership pride

For the record, i think evo's and fto's look good, though i appreciate flowing lines more than muscle cut so yeah i do like the look of fto more.

Anyways, what Jonowong said + 1.

Hey KJ,
I see where you're coming from with all your track days lol, but a 100kw fwd is also fun! I used to do a lot of touge and we all know touge favours balance over power. I only had 116kw atw but outran a lot of more powerful or awd/rwd cars. Shame it broke before i got it to the track. I've got a track day lined up in feb actually...gonna take my 3mps, it'll be wearing semi slicks before then too

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:29 am

Dont get me wrong i love the FTO i saw my old one the other day and the memories came flooding back, bought a tear to my eye, having said that i have always wanted an evo but assume they were way out of my price range until i looked into it and found out it was a matter of selling my FTO along with a 10k loan...

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:05 pm

Where's my FFS picture when you need it...

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:01 pm

lol, I will never understand how EVO fanboys can never just admit that they're not a pretty car

Honestly .. looking at it I cannot find a single part of the car that I find pleasant to look at .. At least they saved an assload in Design costs.. but seriously, why pick a Lancer? Why not use an FTO or Eclipse shell..

KJ - yes, looks matter in a car - & yes, power & handling matters in a car, but if thats all you're after you can drop $50k into almost any car & turn it into a powerhouse rather than spending 50-60k on an EVO.. if looks didn't matter then everyone on this forum would be driving a commonwhore *edit* or a Skyline..

After all, this thread started off as one for making an AWD FTO.. As Simon said, an FTO is IMO one of the best looking car you can get for under $100k and instead of buying a more expensive car, I'd rather spend $60k on an FTO to give it more power / better handling, more luxurious interior etc..

Doesn't mean I will .. I am fairly happy with the power that a lightly modded FTO puts out.. & I'm more than happy with its handling.. but I wouldn't mind putting in a supercharger at some point though.. or getting another car down the track to take to the track & thrash the guts out of..

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:05 pm

Who said an evo costs 50 to 60k i imorted mine for under 30k like i said sold my FTO along with a 10k loan.

And yes i was happy with my power until i drove a car with real power and then u realise just how slow the FTO is.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:05 pm

barfy wrote:Who said an evo costs 50 to 60k i imorted mine for under 30k like i said sold my FTO along with a 10k loan.

And yes i was happy with my power until i drove a car with real power and then you realise just how slow the FTO is.

50-60k or so for a lot of the EVO VIII's / IX's on carsales.. no idea about costs for importing ..

I haven't caught the "big power" bug yet.. will just stick to my FTO for a while I think

But as I said, I think if I catch the bug, I'd rather to just drop a turbo / supercharger in my car instead of getting a new one .. the only big power cars I like are wayy too far out of my budget for now..

robsta · Post by **robsta** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:55 pm

can someone say off topic?

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:57 pm

off topic