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Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:23 pm
by silverGPX
f**k I wonder what my room bar will do then. Probs nothing lol

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:26 pm
by bjk
silverGPX wrote:f**k I wonder what my room bar will do then. Probs nothing lol
Where does it sit in the car? I still don't really understand how firming the back of the car gives additional traction to the front, so I doubt I can be of much help anyways. :lol:

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:31 pm
by Astron_Boy
bjk wrote:
silverGPX wrote:f**k I wonder what my room bar will do then. Probs nothing lol
Where does it sit in the car? I still don't really understand how firming the back of the car gives additional traction to the front, so I doubt I can be of much help anyways. :lol:
A loose back end causes the front of the car to shift in the same direction.
When the rear end is rigid, the car is less likely to twist out of shape at the rear, and will keep you going the direction you want.

If you really want to find out what the difference is, remove your rear sway bar and strut brace.
Find a 60k loop road, and then try again with the gear back in.

60k, because the speed is still manageable once you start to have the car go where you don't want it.

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:46 pm
by bjk
I think the difference between rear strut barred and not is ample enough education for me, but thanks for the learning. Is there a point at which it becomes too rigid?

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:49 pm
by Astron_Boy
bjk wrote:I think the difference between rear strut barred and not is ample enough education for me, but thanks for the learning. Is there a point at which it becomes too rigid?
Yes, but that can be countered with front suspension and tyres.

In the end, you're on a factory setup, so you won't be making an adverse affect to have to start tinkering further.

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:53 pm
by bjk
Astron_Boy wrote:
bjk wrote:I think the difference between rear strut barred and not is ample enough education for me, but thanks for the learning. Is there a point at which it becomes too rigid?
Yes, but that can be countered with front suspension and tyres.
I'm assuming you mean wider tyres with more grip, but I'm not sure what you mean by the suspension. Is that adjusting, or upgrading?

And because I went for a drive last night, here's some image whoring for you all again. :mrgreen:

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Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:53 pm
by dstocks
YOU MUST GET ONE. HOLY F*CK THESE THINGS ARE AMAZING.

Like seriously, when I was at vipfto's getting the power steering A/C belt changed I asked him whether I would notice a big difference. Never would have anticipated the level of confidence around corners that I get now. On really tight bends where the front wheels usually start giving out and squealing like pigs, they were so much more composed. It's like where did this grip come from?? I knew the FTO was good at handling, but damn you'd never think a simple piece of metal would make it so much better.

Cannot wait to get some wider rubber, and definitely a Whiteline rear sway bar I reckon. Could probably stand to replace my suspension bushings? (I forget exactly what they're called. )
Told you it was worth spending the extra on the good ones!
here's some image whoring for you all again.
You really are obsessed you know (says I)

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:56 pm
by bjk
dstocks wrote:Told you it was worth spending the extra on the good ones!
No kidding! It's like the potential limits have just been pushed up a notch further.

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:00 pm
by dstocks
Never thought about it too much. Always wondered why people out there said they had owned an FTO but didnt handle as well as they had hoped. Cant have had strut braces then (or LSD :twisted: )

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:05 pm
by bjk
dstocks wrote:Never thought about it too much. Always wondered why people out there said they had owned an FTO but didnt handle as well as they had hoped. Cant have had strut braces then (or LSD :twisted: )
Probably not! Although I think I'd only get an LSD if I didn't have to hunt around for those fiddly 25 (or was it 27) spline things. :lol:
dstocks wrote:You really are obsessed you know (says I)
Yeeeahh. One of my housemates makes that comment when I wash my car like every week.

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:07 pm
by dstocks
I guess it would be fair to say you are happy with the decision to pick up an FTO then

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:14 pm
by bjk
dstocks wrote:I guess it would be fair to say you are happy with the decision to pick up an FTO then
Oh, certainly. Obviously there's that umming and ahhing as a consumer, when you wonder if you could've picked up a cheaper one later on, or waited and bought a better one, but overall, I'm very satisfied. And a lot of the things are inconsequential, really. Like being a few years newer, or having the facelift bar.

Fact of the matter is I needed a car, it was available, and it was what I was willing to spend at the time.

Also I'm an impatient person. :lol:

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:26 pm
by dstocks
You can always pick up an aero later......

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:33 pm
by bjk
dstocks wrote:You can always pick up an aero later......
I could, but believe me it'll be a lot later. :lol: Owing my dad $4000 for writing off the 323, and the $3200+ interest for the loan on this car. This car and I have history now. ;) So unless something superbly better comes along when I have money to spare, I think I'll be keeping it and gradually restoring and improving it.

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:54 pm
by Astron_Boy
dstocks wrote:Always wondered why people out there said they had owned an FTO but didnt handle as well as they had hoped.
They just can't drive. :troll:

That little NX I owned for a while had factory suspension, and I could still make it corner catch an FTO :lol:

I don't see the hype, but ehh.

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:25 pm
by dstocks
That little NX I owned for a while had factory suspension, and I could still make it corner catch an FTO
It wouldnt corner catch either of my 2.

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:28 pm
by Astron_Boy
We'll never know now.

Fraz has it in a million pieces. :cheeky:

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:47 pm
by dstocks
We'll never know now.

Fraz has it in a million pieces.
No, that just proves it for certain actually ;)

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:51 pm
by Astron_Boy
No, that just proves Lawso knows how to kill a gearbox, enough to warrant a strip down. :lol:

Re: BJK's '95 GPX

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:02 pm
by bjk
TOUGE BATTLE GO.

(I hope I spelt that right)