Danny's And Jeff's 6A13 turbo Conversions

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:28 am

The clutch plate is a 4 puck ceramic and the pressure plate is the originlal one reconned and uprated by 40% holds ok to 500 ftlb of torque then will slip under normal driving there is no slip it is only under full boost and high torque that it slipped how ever with my setup there was no point keeping it so it is for sale. It has done aproximately 1000 Kms and is still in good condition.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:29 pm

so your FTO produces over 600NM of toque?

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:01 am

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:14 pm

Hey dannyboy I cam to the conclusion that buying small bolt on parts to produce more power in my car is a waste of money if i have the intention of fitting the 6a13tt motor later on, so i though why not give it a go now :p
I was wondering if you could give me a hand and answer a few questions about the conversion.
What parts are needed on top of the engine it self ?
How much is a reasable price for the engine ?
Did your stock gearbox bolt on to the engine fine ?
The 2 possible problems dropping the engine in are the rear turbo and alternator, and the pipping on top of the engine, i was going to get new pipes going to the front with an intercooler, but what do you reccomend I do about the rear turbo and alternator ? just bash the firewall back hehehe
Do you reccomend any sort of aftermarket ecu to be used with the engine ?
I have been going through est figures with my mechanic, (my mechanic is a good mate of mine and knows most mitsubishi engines inside out) Basicly would I be looking at around 3k for the engine, 1k for wiring up the electrics, 1k for the new intercooler and new pipes, and another 1000 for the ecu and tunning ? so would 6-7k be good budget ?
otherwise i will try sell my car and get a tt supra
Oh also if anyone wants to buy my current engine, 1k, i will pull it apart and find whats been worked and try sell it
Thanks in advanced dannyboy

D-TRAIN · Post by **D-TRAIN** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:02 pm

If I were you GAV, I would sell the FTO and go the TT Supra. But if you're like Danny who obviously has the passion for building cars, then an FTO would be a unique choice.

But the Supra is already a good base to build upon. You would be spoilt for choices in terms of performance parts!!

How much does a 1997 VVTi RZ go for these days?

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:24 pm

yes the stock gearbox bolts straight on to the 6A13 engine. I went single turbo which adds a lot more cost . I used the wolf 3D computer and had it completly rewired. If you keep it twin turbo you would be best to get custom made exhaust manifolds, and also get the intercooler plumbing custom made. If you can get a 6a13 for 3 grand you would be doing well, the alternator was no problem. You also will need to strengthen the clutch if you stick with the original twin turbo you should be able to get your standard clutch pressure plate strengthened and a new clutch plate made it cost me 600 AUD but that was mates rates. It holds ok untill it gets to over 500 Ft Lb of torque. Then there is the blow off valve, rising rate fuel pressure regulator, dump pipe and exhaust, oil catch can, fuel pump, boost gauge, boost controler,. I would be thinking closer to 10 grand, also depends what sort of job you want, do you want silicone hoses and anodised fuel lines, some things you could get away with out replacing, like exhaust and fuel pump, but it is better to do it properly the first time then it is to pay for some things twice. Its the little things that add up.

I would be surprised if you can get the engine for less than 4 grand, but they might be coming more available now as it took me over six months to find my first one.

Also with a TT supra you will still need to spend money on that if you want to have a fast TT supra

I did the FTO because i reckon it is the sexiest looking jap car out of them all. But it just didnt quite have enough power for me

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:35 pm

hehe what would be enough power 4 u ?
I think that anything over 115kw at the wheels is too much on a fwd, its soo difficult to keep traction as it is atm. which is making me lean toward the tt supra. I like the idea of rwd the only thing is i am debating between getting a new 97+ model or an old 93 aero top auto

If it will cost around 10k for that sort of project i might be best with the supra, thing is ftos are soo damn hard to sell these days ! I thought it would be easy to sell, especially the fact that mine is a rare colour and has been worked internally.
oh well i might just get it fixed up and advertise it in the papers

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:39 pm

just so happens i know of a TT supra for sale 93 model with 53000 on the clock in excellant condition, how much you want for your FTO.

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:43 pm

is it aerotop ? i only wanna settle for a 93 model if its aerotop other wise ill get a newer model. I wanna get 16-17 for my car

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:49 pm

no

its not a aero top

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:38 am

just a update on whats happening

looks like the clutch problem will be sorted by next week

picked up the twin plate clutch last week that we have modified to suit the FTO and the flywheel is currently being made to suit it, should be ready on friday then just have to put it all back togeather. will post some pictures of the clutch on the weekend

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:23 pm

D-TRAIN wrote: How much does a 1997 VVTi RZ go for these days?

you'll be looking at $45K+ for a decent example.

D-TRAIN · Post by **D-TRAIN** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:33 pm

Hmm...I think the prices are fluctuating too much these days for imports.
Could do better than $45gs though I reckon.

There was a late 1997 TT RZ (Tiptronic), less than 45,000kms, leather interior, private sale for $38000 here in Sydney. Bit of bargaining, get it down to $36,000+. I'm thinking that's not a bad buy if everything is kosher.

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:08 pm

bad news on the twin plate

the drive shaft only engages with one plate need drive shaft another 20 mm longer

might give the exedy heavy duty clutch a try as a temporary messure to get it back on the road.

hey mikey would you have a part number and a clamping force for the exedy one that you put in and how does it drive.

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:13 am

Thanks for the details the other night Mikey sorry i couldnt talk long but you called at a bad time.

The clutch expert seems to think we can still get this twin plate to work he is going to combine two differant brands of twin plate and hopefully will have it done soon.

I was hoping to take it down the strip by now, hopefully will be able to post some times during november,

Stay tuned hoping to get into the 12s

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:13 am

hi folks

just a little update

should get the clutch back on monday then it will be just a few days till it should be back on the road,

will post a few new pics later in the week of the twin plate clutch
solid engine mounts, titanium wipers, DBA gold rotors, engine cover, 590cc injectors and the melted piston

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:45 pm

hi there everybody

well the other engine is in and just uploaded a few pics to yahoo of the twin plate clutch and the melted pistons, still waiting on the 590cc injectors to arrive ( nearly 3 months after they should have )

Now just waiting to get it retuned then it will be back on the road

here is the link to the pics

http://photos.yahoo.com/dannyboyau

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:03 pm

so is this gonna be the same setup as the 1st engine, or are you building a race engine instead? ...and how much did the forgies cost you?

...and can i have the spare one (mate's rates)? hehehe!

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:17 pm

same setup as first engine at the moment.

I am waiting for the the custom made forged JE pistons with ceramic coating top and side skirt and Pauter rods to be made then will build a race engine using the engine with the melted pistons.

Once the new engine is built and in the car you can buy this engine for what it cost me ( if it is in good condition still ) hehehe.

The forgies are costing me 3200 AUD plus taxes and shipping so should be about 3750 AUD per set

Black_FTOGPX · Post by **Black_FTOGPX** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:00 pm

Get a some video's going. I want to see and hear this thing.

How well can you get the wheels smoking. Really wanna see that on video!!