Mitsubishi FTO TURBO news

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:20 pm

thats 294kw at the wheels, that is a big gain from around 120-130 (stock 6a13 kw @ the wheels)
Did you get other work apart from the turbos done ?

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:31 pm

are you referring to the red FTO is Zoom's turbo FTO project? If so, I believe that is EXC's car...

btw, Danny runs 18psi of boost on a relatively massive turbo (GT30 OR 35 i think). it runs on a custom FMIC, larger injectors (i think), tuned ROM and custom inlet manifold... that's about as much as i can remember, LOL...

As for drivetrain losses, it's different for every car. For example, the WRXs can have drivetrain losses ranging from 35-55% between yearly models (ie: MY00 vs MY06), whereas GTRs can have drivetrain loss variations of anywhere from 40-50% at the wheels. For a FWD car, it can also depend on other factors, such as the condition of the running gear (and we won't even go into the dodgy-dyno debate), ambient temps etc etc, you know the deal...

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:36 pm

why is there such a big turbo on a small 2.5l motor there must be a sh*t load of lag?

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:39 pm

G_A_V wrote:why is there such a big turbo on a small 2.5l motor there must be a sh*t load of lag?

LOL, you must understand - Danny is not exactly building a daily driver - he's already got a TT Supra for that haha...

cap1baby · Post by **cap1baby** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:23 pm

Once you've strapped Turbo's on them what do you expect to get the the 400m-sprint?

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:56 pm

cap1baby wrote:Once you've strapped Turbo's on them what do you expect to get the the 400m-sprint?

depends on what sort of turbo you are running, how much boost, what sort of tyres, ambient air temp, etc etc...

for a really basic setup running 6-7psi, i don't see why it can't manage mid-low 14s.

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:43 pm

i dont see why i cant do low 14s now, im gunna chuck some new 17' tyres on, get the unique muffler systerm and cai system, and go down to easten creek, and hope for high 13s, am i expecting too much ??

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 12:41 am

G_A_V wrote:i dont see why i cant do low 14s now, im gunna chuck some new 17' tyres on, get the unique muffler systerm and cai system, and go down to easten creek, and hope for high 13s, am i expecting too much ??

...so you're expecting 13s from an NA FWD?

ok, let's put this into perspective:

a std MY03 WRX (168kw, 4wd turbo, 1395kg) can do flat 14s. a std STI (195kw, 4wd turbo, 1470kg) does around mid 13s.

a std Astra turbo (147kw, FWD turbo, 1282kg) covers the qtr mile in low 15s, and for comparo sake the Mazda RX8 (177kw, RWD turbo, 1350kg) does high 14s - low 15s

i'm not too sure what are the levels of mods you've done to the V6 motor, but if you can crack into mid 14s in NA trim then you are doing very, very well.

Just my 2c.

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:16 am

actually there is very little lag and it is the GT 30

but it is all the other bits and work with the turbo that makes the differance, you cant just bolt on a big turbo and expect big horse power

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:31 pm

well i will be moddifing till i get 130kw at the wheels which should be some where around 170-180kw at the fly wheel, that is my goal, and u reminded me how much the gr's weight, what is it 1170 or something, i cant remember, so it will have a nice power to weight ratio, proberbly better then all the cars you listed, the final issue will be traction.
so i will be getting some 17s with pirellis or what ever sticks the best. I was even tempted to pick up some street legal nittos if the price is right
I guess we will find out when i go down to the drag lanes @ eastern creak.
Is anyone else intrested in going for a track day ?? we could get a group of ftos

d_stroy_r · Post by **d_stroy_r** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:30 pm

we should have a quarte mile challenge

I think ill be pulling mid 14's very easily with all the mods i have at the moment. I'll love to take it down the strip some day

PS the RX8 is non turbo

hnm738 · Post by **hnm738** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:02 am

what mods will you be doing to get and have to 130kws at the wheels??G_A_V??

and was wandering i got a tip gpx and itg pod filter and 2.5inch exhaust what approximately do you think i have at my wheels??

thanks

SilentBob · Post by **SilentBob** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:27 am

note...GAV has the freak GR that beats pretty much every GPX on the road...so he's got a good head start

damn him

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:54 am

There is a 1/4 mile league on Richard Batty's site
http://www.mitsubishi-fto.net/qmile/index.htm

The best official FTO 1/4 mile time in the UK is 14.452 and this is a manual GPX. Better times have been posted but these people are running NOS. It should be fun when some of the in-progress cars are finished. RB's car should be ready soon (2.5l V6 Turbo which is the same as Danny), the RPW turbo unit which this thread has talked about, and two others which I know about but I don't know what they have done (they are keeping it very quiet but dropping the occasional hint). I also believe that Aaron's car is damn quick (he has a lot of the RPW stuff fitted) but I don't think he has done a timmed 1/4 mile in it.

Aaron's site http://www.mitsubishi-fto.info
Brian

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:34 am

I have 110 atm, and I will befitting as many unique auto sports mods as possible, and if i cant get to 130, then I will be looking at a 50hp bottle of nos
Mainly cause i cant justify spending 10k (for a turbo kit, or 6a13 2.5l engine) on a car which will be 10 years old soon(in 2005), and is luky if its worth twice 10k !
oh I will also look into Whiteline anti lift kits to see if it will help with traction much

d_stroy_r · Post by **d_stroy_r** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:41 pm

We should have our own 1/4 mile challenge, with different catagories eg gr, gpx, turbo nos and so on.

I'll be Interested how each state goes

Mitsiman · Post by **Mitsiman** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:51 pm

Update for those itnerested.

Spoke on the phone with "The Garage" in Scotland and te vehicle will be completed and dyno'd by Friday and we will have the results on Monday with luck.

We have redesigned the system with the turbo hanging off the back of themotor on the firewall side rather than on top of the engine mount as per our first design which is a better setup and one I prefer as the turbo is now hidden etc.

Being made with a GT-28 ball bearing turbo and Greddy E-Manage system.

Two kits are being made and then the 2nd kit sent back to australia for manafacturing a model off.

Will have somemore infomation very soon.

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:57 pm

alright ppls - place your bets to see who can get the closest HP figure at the wheels with the RPW turbo kit...

Any takers? hehehehe...

...mmm, can't wait for the results!

D-TRAIN · Post by **D-TRAIN** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:40 pm

Stab in the dark.....125kw at the wheels?

What about guesses on the price of the kit??

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:00 pm

D-TRAIN wrote:Stab in the dark.....125kw at the wheels?

What about guesses on the price of the kit??

yeh, more or less the same figure in my mind... prob might cost around $10K fitted me thinks...

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