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you already problems with the car in stock trim

yeah i got suspension problems because my rear suspension is rooted. I dont have any engine or turbo problems.

you just wait till you drive in the wet around Mt Dandy with that sort of power

why would i wanna even drive in the wet around Mt Dandy even in stock trim??

besides, the reason why i spent so goddamn much $ on my setup is because 2/3 of the parts used on my car were all custom made, not bolt-on parts that you can buy off the shelf so you can't really compare them both at face value...

tru, i cant , and yr car in that trim is obviously more unique than mine at 200kw but do u think u have gone forwards or backwards with yr turbo upgrade? the bigger turbo would definately help in the 1/4 mile but what about around twisties? wouldnt that be more beneficial because no matter what u do to yr car its not a 1/4 mile car.

Geeee does pinky looks like a turtle to you? Come on you know which one i'm talking about.

yeah i know which one yr talking about now
how long would it take for those bolt on parts to be installed? i assume its a total kit yeah?

i meant you were having problems handling the car in stock trim... you should get that rear end susp. checked out first before you go about getting more power out of it. and i'm serious dude, even with your suspension sorted it's not going to be the same driving with 200kw atw, esp on an mid-engined car... for straightline it's fine, but make sure it's not wet before you cut sick into the corners.

tru, i cant , and yr car in that trim is obviously more unique than mine at 200kw but do u think u have gone forwards or backwards with yr turbo upgrade? the bigger turbo would definately help in the 1/4 mile but what about around twisties? wouldnt that be more beneficial because no matter what u do to yr car its not a 1/4 mile car.

like i said before, since the turbo went in i've been getting shitloads of torquesteer around corners when it comes on boost therefore it's pointless in keeping the revs up (or i'll end up killing myself or others)... changing to an even bigger turbo will mean more lag, and because i prefer broader overall response (instead of mega top end that I hardly use) the current turbo will have to stay and having said that i'd definitely say it has gone forward as far as straightline is concerned ;)8) it may not be a 1/4 mile beast, but then again it was never built to be one...

c'mon Mr Controversy what are you so hyped up about on me man...lol :P

FTOluv wrote: how long would it take for those bolt on parts to be installed? i assume its a total kit yeah?

They reckon 2wks, i reckon 4wks, don't forget this kit is ADR approved, so i won't have any problem with cops or EPA & then the rest of stuff need to be done too, so when i take the delievery, it would be out of action for at least 6mths

c'mon Mr Controversy what are you so hyped up about on me man...lol

im just trying to understand the reason for your new turbo.

i meant you were having problems handling the car in stock trim... you should get that rear end susp. checked out first before you go about getting more power out of it.

yeah, my current springs and suspensions is totally fucked, im getting new springs and coilovers. Ive decided to get either the TRD or Apexi N1 coilovers. Pricey, but at least their smoother than the Tein ones

even with your suspension sorted it's not going to be the same driving with 200kw atw, esp on an mid-engined car...

of course its not gonna be the same, its obviously gonna have more power meaning the better the driver has to be

well you coulda just asked lol... but if you really have to know, the old turbo was running out of puff beyond 6200rpm (i told you last time, didn't i? or were you too busy perving on someone else... ), so i got not much chop in the top end ........and you know the rest of the story

N1's are quite stiff too apparently, but not as rock-hard as the TEINs nevertheless. maybe you could get custom-valved ones like Uly suggested (Koni's), might work out slightly cheaper too... If you gotta stick with the JDM names, go to Hypertech @ Vermonth and ask for Arnold, he'll hook you up with some Apex'i gear (he's a major distributor).

yeah i do remember u telling me about yr old turbo running out of puff but didnt u just say this turbo is giving u top end issues?

N1's are quite stiff too apparently, but not as rock-hard as the TEINs nevertheless.

well their racing suspension so its definately gonna be stiffer than stock, but im also considering the TRD ones. But yeah, i mite give Arnold i buzz.

They reckon 2wks, i reckon 4wks, don't forget this kit is ADR approved, so i won't have any problem with cops or EPA & then the rest of stuff need to be done too, so when i take the delievery, it would be out of action for at least 6mths

first of all Kev, u should know that the cops can even canary a brand new Camry let alone the mods u planning to do to the Turtle Second of all, if its gonna take a month for the kit to be fitted why would it take another 5 months for all the other stuff?? or are u just spacing it out like im doing?

it's not the turbo that's giving me top end issues... the turbo is perfectly sized for my needs now. it's something else that's causing the restriction somewhere...

Hmmmm i don't think i have a choice mate, you seen the list before, its bloody long, & its not like in the movie which come overnights Plus you got to leave room for idiots to screw up either the parts or tune up.

In my opinion both cars are nice.

A turbo'd FTO is unique and the styling is really growing on me. The interior (with the retrim) is so comfortable and still looks pretty modern for such an old car.

The mr2 looks a bit dated on the outside and the interior is pretty plain but the targa makes up for that and of course power is easier and cheaper to extract (I do nearly all my mechanical work)

But having said all this, I wouldn't turbo a fwd again, it's easy to make power but getting it to the ground is another story!

At the end of the day you both have nice cars! I wouldn't mind either

thanks onnzo, we werent comparing whether Mikeys car is better than mine because they are both two different cars. Plus, mine is a project car where he has nearly finished what he has wanted to do with the car

i am nowhere near finished with my car but at this point it just seems pointless to go any further because like Mike said, it's difficult to put all of that extra power to the ground on a FWD so yes, no more turbo FWD for me next...

i am nowhere near finished with my car but at this point it just seems pointless to go any further

thats what i meant

For those of you who don't know, this is what Kev's turtle is:



He is going to paint it green and turbo it

sorry to be off topic abit but
please pardon my ignorance but mikey what to do you mean by small turbo runs out of puff high up in the rpm range, does it lose boost pressure?

Dam james, nothing can escape from you yeah, you always busted my bubble eheheheh

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA, love the pic James, I wonder where the APS Twin turbo kit Kev was planning to buy would fit on the car!

jonowong wrote:sorry to be off topic abit but
please pardon my ignorance but mikey what to do you mean by small turbo runs out of puff high up in the rpm range, does it lose boost pressure?

Basically what this means is that higher revs, the engine requires more air than the turbo is capable of flowing. This results in a drop off in power after the maximum flow capacity of the turbo is reached. I had this problem in my 6A12 VR-4 - the little itty bitty TD-025 turbos meant that the power curve dropped off reasonably steeply from its 6000rpm max to the 7200rpm redline. It doesn't necessarily mean a loss in boost pressure, however smaller turbos tend to become less efficient at high boost levels (depending on the turbo of course)

Its a compromise really - small turbos make for good drivability and midrange power as they don't have as much lag and don't come on boost with such a 'bang', but as mentioned above tend to be less efficient at high rpm where most power is made. Larger turbos suffer more from lag and can be less drivable, but will be better at making big power numbers high in the rev range.

At least that's how I understand it

That’s why cars like Supra & RX7 use sequential twin turbo, while GTR use parallel (kick in at the same time) twin turbo. But the problem with this type of set up its space.

The type of turbo u get should be determined on what style of driving u like more. Track or Drag.