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Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:06 pm
by bjk
Like that snake I almost ran over once. :lol:

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:39 am
by Shane001
PHIL069 wrote:I agree Shane,
on a race track you already know the corners, on a public road you could come accross lots of unexpected circumstances.
Phil, can't you read :lol:
Shane001 wrote:Do it on the track!
:lol:

TBH though, most FTO's wouldn't have the power to pull themselves through a corner without generating dangerous understeer.

The racecar had just enough, a couple of times i've gone in too hot, started to lose the back, and just kept the right foot in it hard and driven it out. You need to be able to near generate wheel spin to pull this off.

But yes, I repeat;
Shane001 wrote:Do it on the track!
:lol: 8)

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:09 am
by PHIL069
I'm hearing you Shane but we can't all just drive our FTO's purely on a Race Track.
You do get slow corners on fast speed limit roads too and I doubt we are all going to drive around like daniel clones. :lol:
So we all need to know how to handle our cars in corners on public roads where we may come accross unexpected circumstances.
I'm not condoning racing around the streets at stupid high speeds.
That's all I'm trying to say, again. :D

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:55 am
by dstocks
Even better if you can practice on dirt too.
I used to live on a farm when I was young. The best thing I ever did was find a paddock with wet grass with no trees or holes and flick the car out of contol on purpose (didnt take much on wet grass). The trick then is to try and get it back. Was quite safe as there was nothing to hit and you only needed slow speeds to kick it off. Learnt a lot from that. Wet grass is one of the most slippery surfaces youll find - its like being on a skid pan. Can really teach you to feel the car. So if you know anyone with a farm, that might be worth a shot.

And the 360's are fun :twisted: . Used to be able to get 5 or 6 spins in while trying to wrestle control back.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:32 am
by aza013
dstocks wrote:
Even better if you can practice on dirt too.
I used to live on a farm when I was young. The best thing I ever did was find a paddock with wet grass with no trees or holes and flick the car out of contol on purpose (didnt take much on wet grass). The trick then is to try and get it back. Was quite safe as there was nothing to hit and you only needed slow speeds to kick it off. Learnt a lot from that. Wet grass is one of the most slippery surfaces youll find - its like being on a skid pan. Can really teach you to feel the car. So if you know anyone with a farm, that might be worth a shot.

And the 360's are fun :twisted: . Used to be able to get 5 or 6 spins in while trying to wrestle control back.
I will 2nd that :twisted: .
I also agree with Shane, if you are on a track or public road you should always brake before a turn and feather the power around it or flat to the fire wall :twisted: .
If you don't know the road you should be going in slower any way, You can always Power out harder.

I will also add that this should be done within the speed limits of the public road!

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:49 am
by bjk
I think I might be worried about getting bogged down in wet grass. :lol:

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:43 pm
by Bennoz
What is traction? :scratch:

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:45 pm
by Daniel2019
Bennoz wrote:What is traction? :scratch:
Loosely translates to

"Those that lack turbos"

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:44 pm
by bjk
Bennoz wrote:What is traction? :scratch:
I'm sure if you'd like to experience it, we can swap cars. :lol:

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:37 pm
by dstocks
I think I might be worried about getting bogged down in wet grass.
So I say wet grass and you read swamp. hmmmmmm.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:48 pm
by Daniel2019
PHIL069 wrote:You do get slow corners on fast speed limit roads too and I doubt we are all going to drive around like daniel clones. :lol:
I promise when I get my black GR running that I will be driving it harder than my old one. Im going to run semi slicks on the front and also do the advanced driver's course (stage 2) at Eastern Creek.

Also, I challenge you to a race. Me thinks my GR will be faster than your hot chicky babe car.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:58 pm
by bjk
Daniel2019 wrote:
PHIL069 wrote:You do get slow corners on fast speed limit roads too and I doubt we are all going to drive around like daniel clones. :lol:
I promise when I get my black GR running that I will be driving it harder than my old one. Im going to run semi slicks on the front and also do the advanced driver's course (stage 2) at Eastern Creek.

Also, I challenge you to a race. Me thinks my GR will be faster than your hot chicky babe car.
Taking bets now people!

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:13 am
by PHIL069
Coast to coast

Pink slips!

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:14 am
by bjk
PHIL069 wrote:Coast to coast

Pink slips!
:lol:

THE STAKES ARE HIGH.

This can be just like Need for Speed.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:16 am
by Daniel2019
That's unfair, I can only do 100km/h! :lol:

Let's be responsible and just compare dyno figures.

I'm hoping for 140kw on a good day 8)

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:16 am
by Vectose
It's not how you stand by your car, it's how you race your car.
:lol:

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:18 am
by bjk
Vectose wrote:
It's not how you stand by your car, it's how you race your car.
:lol:
Where are you quoting that from? It seems very apt.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:19 am
by Vectose
Daniel2019 wrote:I'm hoping for 140kw on a good day 8)
:lol: :slap:
bjk wrote:Where are you quoting that from? It seems very apt.
The Fast And The Furious

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:22 am
by Daniel2019
Well, if I aim high then there's always potential, but if I aim for a mediocre 120kw then I'm not going to get anywhere.

If dstocks can push 135+ with just an intake, exhaust and haltech (I think that was all?) then surely if I go with a bigger TB and some internal work as well as the zorst, intake and haltech then I think 140 is realistic.

Re: Keeping traction in a FWD

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:24 am
by PHIL069
Daniel2019 wrote:That's unfair, I can only do 100km/h! :lol:

Let's be responsible and just compare dyno figures.

I'm hoping for 140kw on a good day 8)
A race is a race :roll: and you said race.
You challenged so I get to choose ;)

Dyno is no race :evil: