[b]Turbo FTO[/b]

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2 way.
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really? and you didnt see much improvement in traction? FWD have the most trouble with traction, so i would have thought it would help substantially...

which brand?

2 ways are more for straight line traction though i heard...
for cornering you need 1 way or 1.5 way...

im thinking of getting 1 way cusco lsd....
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I mean for drags and stuff I got no traction going down.

From take off wheel spin, first to second wheel spin and even sometiems from 3rd to 4th you get a chirp or the start of some spin.

FWD its pretty damn difficult I wonder how danny worked around it, cause i get mega wheelspin which sucks cause it slows you down in drags!

let me know how much yours improves your FTO G1
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Me thinks danny is having the same problems.
Reckon a TCL piggy back system would do it? (if there is such a thing)
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is anybody know how much is the RPW turbo kit???
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The kit has not been finalised as yet and therefore they have not got a price.
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I get wheel spin in all 5 gears when the boost comes on, will be getting some road going slicks but am worried about blowing the gearbox.
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dannyboyau wrote:I get wheel spin in all 5 gears when the boost comes on, will be getting some road going slicks but am worried about blowing the gearbox.
yeh, i'd get the tyres sorted... normal street tyres (albeit the sporty ones) are never designed to cope with so much power from a FWD, so maybe a switch to slicks or semi-slicks might help... but i wouldn't use them on a std gearbox like you said - the strain on the drivetrain will be far too horrendous and costly to fix!
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What about an anti-lift/dive kit? This will stop the front of the car lifting under acceleration and help keep the wheels down.

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speaking of turbo and nos (see earlier posts) for the fto- is it an option to consider a supercharger of some kind for the fto? I haven't seen it mentioned at all... is there any reason? I am very new to all of this, and don't really have much of clue...

I ask because a friend of a friend builds superchargers. He has previously put one on a 2.0L Camry, a Lancer and a Pajero. Apparently the Camry used to suprise people, but he hasn't taken the Lancer to the quarter mile yet. I just thought it might be an option for the fto and am wondering if anyone has tried it before.
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EXC have you got any Hp figures on yours recently, just wondering if you had any problems with the CV joints yet or drive shafts. I know you strengthened the auto was there anything else you had strengthened at the same time

I am expecting to blow the gearbox sooner or later, also does anyone out there know if any of the other turbo FTOs have been manuals.

Took mine for a spin this afternoon after we fitted the new exhaust and modified the external waste gate and got 18 Lb boost, but she just cant keep traction still flys though. Going on the dyno again on friday, should be interesting to see what it gets now.
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bulldog, i believe RPW had once started on a supercharger project for the FTO, but later abandoned it for a twinturbo MIVEC and abandoned it again for the single turbo setup currently in development.

danny, you should speak to Ivan or Tim from RPM Performance in SA - they have carried out numeorus turbo conversions on FTOs there so they know quite a bit about what's involved...
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thanks 02NV, that's interesting to know. Does anybody with a better mechanical knowledge than me (that includes all of you, and most family pets as well :oops: ) have any thoughts on possible advantages/disadvantages of looking into supercharging the fto as opposed to fitting a turbo? is turbo simply a more popular option or is there some basic reasoning behind it?
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Re: supercharging fto's

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bulldog wrote:Does anybody with a better mechanical knowledge than me (that includes all of you, and most family pets as well :oops: )
Wow since u so good, why bother asking? & why anyone want 2 answer you??
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basic, it just comes down to availability of room to fit it in
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Man, I think he just meant to say that he knows there are people out there (including yes..family pets) that have more knowledge than him.

It was a poor attempt at humour but go easy man.
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I have started a new thread just on supercharging so we can keep this one just about turbos.

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FTO338 wrote:
bulldog wrote:Does anybody with a better mechanical knowledge than me (that includes all of you, and most family pets as well :oops: )
Wow since u so good, why bother asking? & why anyone want 2 answer you??
yeh buddy, i think you took it a little but too much out of context... 2 words man - CHILL PILL!

...oh well, everybody has one of those days I suppose. :roll:
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thanks for setting up the new thread for supercharging. I probably should have done that in the first place.

Getting back on topic- when fitting a turbo to the fto, is it also necessary to upgrade a number of other parts as well? Are the standard fto brakes, gearbox (manual or tiptronic) etc. good enough to handle the turbo or will I be constantly upgrading bits and pieces as they fall apart?

Just trying to figure out my options while I begin saving up...
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brakes are usually the number one priority after a major performance upgrade to the engine. if you wanna go fast, you must also be able to stop just as well, coz otherwise your car will be a dangerous projectile at high-speeds that cannot slow down effetively in the event of an emergency...

as for gearbox, it depends how much extra power is being fed through it. it also depends on how much brutality you give to your gearbox (ie: flatshifting at redline) because even at stock power, you can easily screw-up your transmission if you're not careful!

...add turbo mumbo into the equation and it's all a matter of time until something cries foul and spit the dummy... (esp if it's a tiptronic as they are not as strong) Angela (aka EXC) has since seen the light and have strengthened the internals of her tiptronic to handle the extra power, but i'm sure dannyboyau is already preparing a contingency plan for this impending disaster on his stock gearbox LOL! :wink:

in a nutshell, if you plan to perform a turbo conversion, start small by running small amounts of boost if you are running standard engine internals and driveline hardware. i think any more than 300hp at the wheels will start giving you reliability problems over time...
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