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Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:21 pm
by Daniel2019
That'll buff out.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:38 pm
by dstocks
This isnt good news. Was on my car 18 months without issues Just talked to Taz and the hinges are still attached and the latch in the bonnet itself is still perfectly OK. So if the bonnet is still structurally sound how did it let go. Does this mean that the latch in behind the bumper let go somehow? Anyone got any suggestions as to what might have happened if the bonnet itself is still intact on all 3 points where it attaches to the car.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:01 pm
by Taz
Thanks to everyone wishing well and Dwayne for the call, has eased my mind a bit more as to the costs that will be involved.
Im gonna go ahead and assume it is the latch as Dwayne says, either enough force got under the bonnet that it ignored the latch and ripped it up imitating the motion of undoing the bonnet from the inside switch and then plain ripping it out or as sure as i was which is 110% the bonnet was down properly, but somehow not fully in place and waiting for it to happen somehow - but either way when its repaired there will be a new latch to make sure this doesnt happen again, coupled with race quality bonnet pins.

So far it shouldnt be tooooo much and the car should be driveable soon.
I can bend back most of the roof now as it is as its only the thin roof skin thats caved in, while not aesthetically perfect by any means, it will temporarily do the job for the day or two i will need the car.
Since the bonnet is still in tact, and everything is in order (nothing bent or what not) i might have to drive it after i put the bonnet pins in and all i will need to do immediately as such will be the windscreen which hopefully o'briens still stock.
It will be fixed very soon though and back in order including the drivers door and probably have enough money to put the extractors in after i pay out dwayne n sahin

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:05 pm
by kiz
Damn, that sucks. Have never seen that much damage from a bonnet coming up.

I guess that's why I invested in my AeroCatch bonnet catches. Cheap insurance for this type of incident

When you do manage to get your car fixed, i'd recommend them ;)

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:08 pm
by Taz
Yep, definitely going with the catches.
Im not surprised at this damage, in fact i think its pretty minimal considering the bang it made, almost shat my pants followed by that immediate heart sinking feeling.
Hopefully not more than 1500 in repairs, just wondering why this had to happen now, and not in a weeks time when i would of had catches in... :x

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:12 pm
by kiz
Taz wrote:just wondering why this had to happen now, and not in a weeks time when i would of had catches in... :x
I was very cautious with mine when I first got my car. The importers broke one of the catches before I got it and they didn't replace it. $100 later from America and I had my new ones. But before I had them I stayed off the highway and avoided highspeeds until they were on ;).

My bonnet is only fibreglass but they still love to fly :lol:

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:45 pm
by phunkydude
Get the windscreen from your blue car dude'
Further down the road, fab a perspex windscreen for your blue race car.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:03 pm
by Astron_Boy
As much as you may not like to admit it, I do simply think the bonnet was not down properly.

Vendoring a guess, I'd say that the lock was inbetween a notch which gave a click, but wasn't fully engaged, when you've set off, the vibration/ road has loosened the latch (unlocked it)
A good gust of wind up through the engine bay and it went for a fly.

If ALL points of contact are in tact, it's the only logical answer.

Sucks, but what's done is done.

Been there myself purely from distraction, my case for damage however the bonnet merely bent in half (namely as Magnas are made of old tanks). You simply came off second best.

Roof trim out, get the roof looked at, bonnet can be fixed, they simply re-blend the corners and what not (as the bonnet is painted the pattern doesn't matter as much)

I still can't figure how the bonnet smacked down your roof without taking damage, I would seriously be looking at the bonnet 'off' the car as that will show any extra flex.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:18 pm
by silverGPX
Yeah i cannot understand the roof caving in from a straight bonnet, it would of had to of flexed.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:25 pm
by PHIL069
Possable that you bonnet latch is corroded or stiff and didn't close all the way.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:38 pm
by dstocks
The vent hit the roof (you can see that in the pic), but im guessing that the bonnet didnt bend. If you look at the top of the window, it doesnt appear to be a smooth curve (could be an illusion though). I wonder if the dent has been caused by the top of the roof moving slightly backwards (this bending the subframe slightly and causing the roof to bend inwards.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:44 pm
by rock_it
Repairable write off my ass.. You may want to validate who is spoon feeding you sh*t..

It came off my FTO.. I had a tap under 10k's.. Check the forum, u will find the thread.. Only thing that happened was at the front of the bonnet, the CF detached from the FG underneath.. 

My insurance bought me a new bonnet, and so that one went to Dwayne.. It went to a panel beater for a full repair, so it must have been an installation fault..

I had a FG bonnet fly up on my Evo, and u have to accept that it happens.. The safety latch is usually just FG as well, so it won't stop a thing. That one did have a reinforced latch though.

My replacement bonnet has been fine on my FTO now, and it is the reason I went back to the stock alloy bonnet on the Evo..

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:47 pm
by Astron_Boy
Just seems like an excessive amount of damage for a small area of impact.

The entire roof has more or less collapsed like someone has jumped on it, but the impact point itself is not a small dent, it's like a................ it's like a giant has sat on the roof of the car for a seat....

It's simply extremely odd...

I can guess that the arm catch didn't get to stop the bonnet due to the flex in the bonnet, has more than likely slipped off the tooth.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:58 pm
by Taz
Keep in mind this did happen at around 80km, possibly 90-95 as i was on the gas.
Was a horrendous bang and it flew up and flew up fast - if it was the latch failing then it wouldnt of been held back slightly as it eventually failed (if that makes any sense) but rather just flew straight up instantly.
If the top of the windscreen roof bit is bent, it will be ever so slightly and would only be noticeable on certain light angles etc.
This did happen at that speed and this damage was caused by the bonnet and bonnet alone.
It is puzzling i will agree, but im sure theres sense in there...either way

And rock_it, i only say this as i heard it off someone that it was, i had no idea who it came from, what its story was etc just heard that it was, no offense or anything was intended, just heard wrong it seems.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:57 pm
by Technikhaus
Ouch.... is all I can say :(
I hope it is as easy to fix as you say it will be 8)

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:53 pm
by Daniel2019
Im guessing it was the latch because the bonnet itself has had a lot of previous use without problems.

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:52 pm
by PHIL069
Can we start posting jokes yet, because I have a few :lol:

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:59 pm
by Bennoz
:cheers:

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:41 pm
by Taz
Have popped the roof out, just got in took the roof lining off and pushed it out as hard as i could, still by no means anywhere near perfect, flat spots and dents in some areas but not too noticeable least when driving.
In the middle of painting the blue bonnet and going to put that on for the few months its gonna take me to get the c/f bonnet repaired.
Pinching the windscreen off the blue car as i was quoted 518 f**king dollars to get a new one fitted to the white one.
Hopefully mid week if i can find some money it will be only cosmetic damage then i can take that to a panelbeater and get it all done

Re: This is what happens when you don't have bonnet pins

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:57 pm
by illmotion
Whoa that a expensive windscreen!

i got mine brand new and installed including moulding/trim in Perth for about $300 most place gave quotes for around $350 but it good to shop around