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Remove the two bolts holding each pack coil in, then pull up.
If you're also wanting to remove the HT leads that go from the coil packs to the rear plugs then pull them off but be carefull as I ripped one apart once, I now just move them out the way.
Make sure you know which coil pack/lead came from where too as you don't want to get mixed up putting them back.

Rear plugs were a nightmare. Had to use multigrip pliers, a long flat head screwdriver and just about every vein in my forehead!

So i did all the tappets, put the car together and crossed my finers and turned the key. Car struggled to idle and didnt sound very good....shat myself and turned it off. When i turned it off and the engine was stoping it made some weird noise, like a cranking noise? o.O?

Anyway, I checked to see if i had missed something, a hose or anything....couldnt find anthing, so i tried again.

Car started and sounded pretty good, then all of a sudden there was the biggest backfire I've ever heard in my life (think it was exhaust end, not manifold) and I shat my pants. Soi turned it off right away. Stunk the whole garage out.

Now Idk what to do

EDIT: It was missing the hose from the air filter pipe to the plug under the throttle body.

mosti wrote:and I shat my pants......Stunk the whole garage out.

Did you lose any washers during this process? More specifically any washers from one of the 2 nuts that go on either side of the manifold?

Bennoz wrote:Did you lose any washers during this process? More specifically any washers from one of the 2 nuts that go on either side of the manifold?

^ fingers crossed for a no.

Hmmm yea i did actually. I lost a whole bolt which nips up the cover far top right. Didnt fall into the moto though if thats what you're getting at...it fell down where the battert use to sit, but it didnt land on the floor :/.

Could it possibly be something as simple as that one bolt missing, leaving the tinniest gap? I got a bolt of the same width but it was a mm longer so maybe its not nipping the cover down properly?

EDIT:
Car runs perfect now (apart from backfiring), possibly due to the missing hose or just the car shiting itself a little due to the tappet adjustments haha

Are u talking about the two nuts which screw onto both sides of the plenum at the front bottom?

The bolt i lost was for the cover.

Also, the coils...could they cause a problem if not in correct position? I labeled the packs at the front...1-3 from left to right. I forgot to label the back though. But i think it goes 3-1 from left to right. Someone folowing? Lol

Had I lost any washers into the engine I'd have heard them bouncing around pretty loudly right? Just started the engine again just then. There are absolutely no odd sounds but the car is backfiring?



f**k, i knew i shouldn't have touch this stupid thing -.-. Adjusting the tappets was piss easy though.....putting the car back together was a nightmare

EDIT:

Okay guys I think it's due to the spark plugs/ ignition leads. I know for certain the front plugs are in the correct holes as I labeled them but for the rears I ran off memory... so that could be the cause.

Bennoz...or anyone else, can you help me with this?

OKay so this is a pretty dodgey drawing but it's simple lol...

Imagine the 3 bottom circles as the coil packs, the line's as the leads and the 3 top circles as the plugs into the rear.
Is that how they're suppose to be? 3 goes into the to the top left hole, 2 into the middle hole and 1 into the top right?

That looks right to me.
Have you made sure the plugs are seated properly and all?
typically a backfire is from crossing 2 leads to wrong cylinders or 180'd rotor cap (which for this car isn't possible)
Checked everything is plugged back in? no loose plugs without homes?

I'm sure the plugs up back are in properly as I made sure to push down on them untill there was a popping sound (indcating they're fully engaged).

As for the front, I'll double check as the coils do sit on top of the bolt housing (whatever u want to call it).

Can't see any lose plugs without homes, but the engine bay is insanely messy so it might be possible something has fallen down out of sight. Will have to give it a real good look. be back in a jiffy

So 100% certain middle coil (relative to the front) plugs into the midle valve in the rear bank? Its just that the middle coil has the least amount of slack on the lead and to be able to get it in i cant fit the lead back into the black lead casings as its a good 2cm short.
Starting to think middle coil cause into the first valve at the back? :s

This is the mess im working in




The middle coil plug is damaged. It was already damaged when i pulled it out yesteday though. Could it now be playing up?..

Leads don't look right to me from memory, will try to find the correct way.
Re coil pack damaged - that always happens, it's just the rubber (hopefully)

Rob Furniss wrote:Leads don't look right to me from memory, will try to find the correct way.
Re coil pack damaged - that always happens, it's just the rubber (hopefully)

That'd be great man.
I have work in 4hrs.. fml im so screwed.. might have to call in and take a sicky :s or atleast explain i currently have no method of transport

Here you go:
Rear bank left to right
1, 3, 5
Front bank left to right
2, 4, 6

1 goes to 4
3 goes to 6
5 goes to 2

Rob Furniss wrote:Here you go:
Rear bank left to right
1, 3, 5
Front bank left to right
2, 4, 6

1 goes to 4
3 goes to 6
5 goes to 2

I was about to post up that it was something like that...

You beat me to it Rob.

Thanks guys, hope this works <3

I have a pretty good feeling it will work for you.
If it doesn't work then the belt may have slipped when turning the engine over and be out a tooth, check the timing marks while you're at it. You only turned the engine over on the bottom crank pulley didn't you and didn't turn it backwards (anti clockwise)? (that would be bad as it slackens the belt)

I (well my dad) turned it over on the cam pulleys first time we did them a few years ago and it jumped a tooth, was a bugger to sort out - never do that.

Cheers man everything is back together and all is good
Silly plug, made me sh*t myself haha.

Idk if my ears werent working properly before or what but it seems as though my tapping noise is still there, if not worse lmao.

I had the feeler gauge between the low speed cam lobe and roller just like instructed. Might possibly be that the 0.002mm in my gauge was enough to make an impact?. Ah f**k it what a waste of a day -.-

How much does mitsu charge to do this crap? grumble grumble.

I might even take it off again some time soon and try it again.

just out of curiosity though, both tappets affect the clearance of the low speed cam lobe. So if I were to only do one tappet (2 per lobe), I'd be able to adjust the lobe to the right clearance.

So lets say I losen the nuts on both tappets and turn the head of the screw on the left tappet half a turn and it's still a tad lose, so i decide to turn the right tappet a quarter turn. But then it's too tight. So i turn the right tappet a tiny bit back. Even though the clearance is correct are the tappets out of balance? Or is that irrelevant?

If someone can shed some light on that area it may be the cause of why im still hearing tapping.