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Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:08 pm
by SchumieFan
silverGPX wrote:Lol why the f**k do you need to pay like double the price for a stainless steel system, its just a waste of money.
a) its 'smoother'
b) it doesn't rust

and i believe it doesnt get as hot which means the exhaust gasses exit quicker or some such

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:06 pm
by brent88
i thought exhaust relyed on heat to a degree like turbochargers right?
depends how much the person wants to spend, it would take over 10 years for an exhaust to rust out under normal operating temps so by then it will be 27 years old and it wont really matter unless fto's becaome a collectors item which even then it would be stock ones.

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:29 pm
by Bennoz
Lol @ this thread.

Oh & +1 on not wasting money on Stainless.

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:10 am
by Storm
brent88 wrote: it would take over 10 years for an exhaust to rust out under normal operating temps
Unless you live here in Scotland, in which case a month and a half is considered old for a mild steel zorst :lol:

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:04 am
by silverGPX
SchumieFan wrote:
silverGPX wrote:Lol why the f**k do you need to pay like double the price for a stainless steel system, its just a waste of money.
a) its 'smoother'
b) it doesn't rust

and i believe it doesnt get as hot which means the exhaust gasses exit quicker or some such
Rather spend the money somewhere else!

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:15 pm
by Astron_Boy
silverGPX wrote:
SchumieFan wrote:
silverGPX wrote:Lol why the f**k do you need to pay like double the price for a stainless steel system, its just a waste of money.
a) its 'smoother'
b) it doesn't rust

and i believe it doesnt get as hot which means the exhaust gasses exit quicker or some such
Rather spend the money somewhere else!
Yeah, but sometimes hookers cost too much.

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:50 pm
by Valandis91
somehow for me stainless ended up being cheaper than mild steel :s

Dont ask me how! haha

:D

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:30 pm
by bushido
I'm a big fan of cannons but only the quality type from name brands.

I think it has been stated that its not only in the muffler itself that has an influence on the backpressure. All the components of the exhaust system work together. Also tuning has a lot to do with the certain backpressure for an exhaust setup (correct me if wrong =).

I ran a stainless catback with headers, resonator delete and cannon and it was ridiculous loud.

Grown out of that type now and have moved onto to the more sedate look and quiet sounds!

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:32 pm
by aza013
Sounds like your getting old :P :lol: .

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:28 pm
by Gholdwayne
Sames! I find that I use the quiet mode a lot more these days to blend in with the other quiet cars.

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:56 pm
by SchumieFan
i dont know much all about (anything) exhausts, i was just going on what ive heard, stainless will outlast the life of the car... mild is susceptible to rust... but whats the lifetime and does it match up against the price of stainless? ie, '2' years down the track, if my mild steel exhaust system rusted and cost the same as the one id got 2 years ago, would that be the same price as stainless

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:13 am
by Gholdwayne
^ True that.

I reckon a good reason to get stainless is if you plan on keeping the car for as long as you can... Or if you plan to re-use it, ie transfer it to another car.
Wouldn't wanna have cycles of rust, replace, rust, replace :lol:

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:21 pm
by phunkydude
Isn't the fto's entire stock exhaust system made of mild steel?
After 16yrs and 188k kms, it still holding up. What's up with the rust?

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:47 pm
by Bennoz
Exactly ^

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:18 pm
by Gholdwayne
True that sir ^

though, i recall someone having rust holes on their old mild steel pipes, making an exhaust leak...

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:29 am
by silverGPX
Pretty sure all the glass pack and sh*t in the resonators would be long gone though haha.

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:29 am
by Bennoz
Gholdwayne wrote:True that sir ^

though, i recall someone having rust holes on their old mild steel pipes, making an exhaust leak...
Me too, and there a multitude of products from muffer putty to that gooey wrap stuff that I've used to patch leaky exhausts.

Really depends on where you live. If you live near the beach and have to drive across a semi submerged sald water causeway every day, then yes... I'd go for stainless. If you live in the UK & have to put up with salted roads (sucked in) then yes, I'd go stainless. If you plan on keeping your FTO for another 15 years, then yes, I'd go stainless.

If you answered no to all of the above, mild steel will be fine. It'll outlast your ownership of the car.

Re: Cannon muffler

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:16 pm
by Taz
It all depends on the driver, i prefer stainless because of the benefits (regardless of whether they are relevant or will become relevant or not) and because i can afford it, rather than thinking of the price increase over a mild steel counterpart.
At the end of the day, if you can/want to spend the dosh then by all means go nuts on stainless but if you prefer to save your cash or cant personally justify spending the extra $$ on stainless, theres nothing wrong with mild steel.
I would also like to point out that because you can see mine poking out from under the car a bit from a good 50 meters away i like mine to be a bit shinier than regular metal :D