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Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:56 pm
by demonjay
Today I tried the Ignition Failure Sensor bypass trick,

http://www.club3g.com/forum/3g-eclipse- ... ypass.html

Still no go.

I tried replacing the bloody fuel filter but couldn't get the top nut off as i didnt have a 19mm socket only a 3/4 and stripped it slightly.
I really don't think thats the culprit though as the fuel has a good solid flow when cranking the engine.

Is there any other sensors that i can bypass or pull off that might help troubleshoot?

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:21 pm
by pearl_blu_fto
demonjay wrote:Today I tried the Ignition Failure Sensor bypass trick,

http://www.club3g.com/forum/3g-eclipse- ... ypass.html

Still no go.

I tried replacing the bloody fuel filter but couldn't get the top nut off as i didnt have a 19mm socket only a 3/4 and stripped it slightly.
I really don't think thats the culprit though as the fuel has a good solid flow when cranking the engine.

Is there any other sensors that i can bypass or pull off that might help troubleshoot?

Poor thing, i also tried this, but great link.. I just went ahead with a few things to hit and miss possible problems... I have on the other hand found out the TPS is at fault. Went ahead and checked for codes as soon as the engine light came back on AGAIN! Yeap TPS!!! It was the stepper motor... Removed and replaced it was all good for a few days and then back to it's old tricks... They were similar but not as bad as they were...

I have had it not start at the sets of traffic lights... Play up and not change gears accordingly LOLZ! Engine light will pop up, car will play up, engine light will go away car will be fine... Next set of lights or rapidly stopping for a set... Changes into 1st(yes tip tronic) without warning car stops!!! Will not start again! Okay with the TPS(Throttle Position Sensor) Starts/Idles/drives... Only a matter of time before it happens again!!!

Sorry for the novel! Seems like i am having the same/similar problems... Ahhh!

Cheers Damian.

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:58 pm
by SchumieFan
Ben can you do a DIY write up when you do it?

im thinking my FTO might have a fuel filter problem.

when i last drove it it ran great for about an hour and a half and just slowly lost power until it eventually just died, which took about 15/20 minutes.
it wouldnt immediately start so the car was stuck!

next morning it started and drove onto the trailor.... sound like a fuel filter prob? or wishful thinking?

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:54 pm
by demonjay
pearl_blu_fto wrote:It was the stepper motor... Removed and replaced it was all good for a few days and then back to it's old tricks... They were similar but not as bad as they were...
How frustrating!!... I think these cars are at the age now where they are more trouble then they are worth..... still such a good looking car though.
Schumiefan wrote:Ben can you do a DIY write up when you do it?
Not sure if it needs it own write up, seems pretty straight forward.... just the access is a pain in the arse.... and knuckles.
Section 13b-3 of the FTO chassis manual has some pics and details of doing it.

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:33 am
by Bennoz
Fuel filter is straight forward, its just an order of operations you need to learn to make it easy.

Always remove the lines off the filter before removing the bolts that hold it onto the firewall.

Then on reassembly, always attach the lower fuel line before you remount to the firewall.

Otherwise you'll be constantly fighting that stupid swaged fitting & if you dont have a brake like spanner... well... lets just say the loud expletives list can grow exponentially.
pearl_blu_fto wrote:Removed and replaced it was all good for a few days and then back to it's old tricks
When you 'replaced it' did you actually go & buy a new one? If you didn't, thats the first thing I'd be doing.

http://www.cyberspaceautoparts.com.au/c ... Motor.html

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:46 pm
by pearl_blu_fto
Bennoz wrote:Fuel filter is straight forward, its just an order of operations you need to learn to make it easy.

Always remove the lines off the filter before removing the bolts that hold it onto the firewall.

Then on reassembly, always attach the lower fuel line before you remount to the firewall.

Otherwise you'll be constantly fighting that stupid swaged fitting & if you dont have a brake like spanner... well... lets just say the loud expletives list can grow exponentially.
pearl_blu_fto wrote:Removed and replaced it was all good for a few days and then back to it's old tricks
When you 'replaced it' did you actually go & buy a new one? If you didn't, thats the first thing I'd be doing.

http://www.cyberspaceautoparts.com.au/c ... Motor.html

Yeah Ben, you sent me the link to their eBay site :lol:
It is a brand new Stepper Motor. The problem is sorted for now until something else decided to die ;)

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:00 pm
by Bennoz
:facepalm2:

Im on a little to infrequently these days :lol:

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:33 pm
by SchumieFan
SchumieFan wrote: when i last drove it it ran great for about an hour and a half and just slowly lost power until it eventually just died, which took about 15/20 minutes.
it wouldnt immediately start so the car was stuck!

next morning it started and drove onto the trailor.... sound like a fuel filter prob? or wishful thinking?

do you rekon this sounds like a fuel filter problem though? im going to NZ tomorrow so ill be able to rip it out (maybe) but i dont have a replacement for it... not that it matters much at the mo.
dad will most likely have a brake line spanner

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:28 pm
by pearl_blu_fto
Bennoz wrote::facepalm2:

Im on a little to infrequently these days :lol:
Yeah man, no need to tell me a second time ha ha ha. 8O It wasn't long before this post i was messaging you over facebook! :lol:

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:26 pm
by demonjay
Crap!

Committed my own pet hate, and didn't update with the solution.

Ended up being the Crankshaft position sensor.

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:54 pm
by Valandis91
Bennoz wrote: Take a look at this:

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tasmania's finest ;)

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:11 pm
by Lawso
Bennoz wrote:
Gholdwayne wrote:
Bennoz wrote: due to its pain in the ass location.
But at times you easily agree on takin on the job, contradicting that statement :lol:
Yeah, well when you do dozens & dozens of them for people, you kinda develop a technique to doing it easily.
Gholdwayne wrote:Take a look at this:

Ben, would you do my fuel filter for me ? :roll: pretty please ?
Take a look at this:

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know this one too well :)

Re: Fuel/Spark Car won't start

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:17 pm
by Bennoz
:drunken: