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Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:31 pm
by zuihoujueding
mr-charisma wrote:mm.. still not sure if I like them .. still like the stock pre facelift spoiler best..
+1

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 4:52 pm
by BJ

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:01 pm
by FTO84
zuihoujueding wrote:
mr-charisma wrote:mm.. still not sure if I like them .. still like the stock pre facelift spoiler best..
+1
This

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:35 am
by brad_gpx
FTO84 wrote:
zuihoujueding wrote:
mr-charisma wrote:mm.. still not sure if I like them .. still like the stock pre facelift spoiler best..
+1
This
so true

imo spoilers are meant to be small
big ones just seem so unnecessary

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:55 am
by FTEvolution
J wrote:at high speeds (100km/h) you need down force for the rear, it was evident when i went from the gpvr wing to no wing at all. the rear end was just a tad more unstable. im sure aza can vouch for this aswell

a purely street driven car with a gt wing is absolute rice.

but gt wing on street and track driven car with adjustable sideplates and has canards or a splitter for front end downforce, is fine by me

but on an fto pushing 110kw atw? really?
It seems that too many muppets go out and buy an adjustable racing wing for their Suzuki Baleno or whatever and then decide it's a good idea to adjust it without knowing what they are doing. It's stupid when you realise that, at 100km/h that they could be putting ~100kg of downforce onto a *standard* bootlid, not only that, but they are quite possibly putting so much weight on the back end that their steering wheels are going to get upset.

If it's not on a race track, big racing wings = rice

You guys also need to think about the FTO's bootlid for a second, if you can pop the welds with a sh*tty 10" sub then imagine what happens when you pop a gt wing on there :roll:

Myself, nvr2low (and at a stretch ben and simon though I have never seen them say it) can attest to the need for more weight on the front of the car, hence hard as fk coilovers trying to counteract the weight transfer of acceleration, why would you ever want to make it worse with a wing?

As said above, the only place a GT wing should be used is on the track on a car with sufficient frontal downforce from a proper front bar and other mods to make it all work together. Honestly, I think you would be setting yourself up for disaster putting one on and then driving like a madman on the roads.

Just my opinion of course, but seriously, safety first...

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 1:42 pm
by Bennoz
Hate to say it, but I agree with the above :lol:

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:20 pm
by aza013
And I will add that at road speeds they do f**k all, really they are just for show nothing more.

A good way to show that this is true park your car out side on a cold night so it gets frost on it, then take it for a run down the motor way and watch how the frost/water comes off the wing.
You will see that the outer edges will dry off but the center will not. This is due to the car not going at the right speed for it to suck the air down the window and onto the wing area.
The only air that hits the wing would be coming around the sides of the car.

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:44 pm
by -Nighthawk-
I know that only high performance cars it matters, but a lot of them if done right can look visually better. I mean people stick topmix / veilside wings on their cars and it just looks horrible. It's hard to find a decent size so I'll just stick with the facelift wing, that looks the best

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:07 pm
by Tippin
-Nighthawk- wrote:I'll just stick with the facelift wing, that looks the best
good idea, gt wings look lame :lol:

:P

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:55 pm
by -Nighthawk-
They still look better than the topmix / veilside wings, but it's hard to find the right size to look better than a VR wing

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:14 am
by brad_gpx
aza013 wrote:And I will add that at road speeds they do f**k all, really they are just for show nothing more.

A good way to show that this is true park your car out side on a cold night so it gets frost on it, then take it for a run down the motor way and watch how the frost/water comes off the wing.
You will see that the outer edges will dry off but the center will not. This is due to the car not going at the right speed for it to suck the air down the window and onto the wing area.
The only air that hits the wing would be coming around the sides of the car.

the can also be used to attract homos

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:02 am
by Tippin
brad_gpx wrote:
aza013 wrote:And I will add that at road speeds they do f**k all, really they are just for show nothing more.

A good way to show that this is true park your car out side on a cold night so it gets frost on it, then take it for a run down the motor way and watch how the frost/water comes off the wing.
You will see that the outer edges will dry off but the center will not. This is due to the car not going at the right speed for it to suck the air down the window and onto the wing area.
The only air that hits the wing would be coming around the sides of the car.

the can also be used to attract homos
lol! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:10 am
by Bennoz
Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 3:28 am
by bduffman
I like the I think its silvias spoiler with the triangle brake light in the midle but a lot of the spoilers people throw on there cars are untested I wonder how many are doing good for the car

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:12 am
by Bennoz
I've fiddled with the angle on mine a number of times, especially on track day.

At pace, if its set too high, it takes the weight off the front wheels... not good.
If its set too low, the ass of the car becomes unstable under brakes.

Outside the track, its nothing more than a handle I can use to push the car home when it breaks down.

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 8:40 am
by bushido
that ugly FTO has M3 (E46) wheels on it.

I like the HKS wing though

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:38 am
by FTO84
brad_gpx wrote:
aza013 wrote:And I will add that at road speeds they do f**k all, really they are just for show nothing more.

A good way to show that this is true park your car out side on a cold night so it gets frost on it, then take it for a run down the motor way and watch how the frost/water comes off the wing.
You will see that the outer edges will dry off but the center will not. This is due to the car not going at the right speed for it to suck the air down the window and onto the wing area.
The only air that hits the wing would be coming around the sides of the car.

the can also be used to attract homos
I thought it'd be more likely to attract dateless Commodore drivers?

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:51 am
by I8A4RE
FTO84 wrote:
brad_gpx wrote:
aza013 wrote:And I will add that at road speeds they do f**k all, really they are just for show nothing more.

A good way to show that this is true park your car out side on a cold night so it gets frost on it, then take it for a run down the motor way and watch how the frost/water comes off the wing.
You will see that the outer edges will dry off but the center will not. This is due to the car not going at the right speed for it to suck the air down the window and onto the wing area.
The only air that hits the wing would be coming around the sides of the car.

the can also be used to attract homos
I thought it'd be more likely to attract dateless Commodore drivers?
Yeah thats what he said..... HOMO'S

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:29 pm
by Gholdwayne
I8A4RE wrote:
FTO84 wrote:
brad_gpx wrote:
aza013 wrote:And I will add that at road speeds they do f**k all, really they are just for show nothing more.

A good way to show that this is true park your car out side on a cold night so it gets frost on it, then take it for a run down the motor way and watch how the frost/water comes off the wing.
You will see that the outer edges will dry off but the center will not. This is due to the car not going at the right speed for it to suck the air down the window and onto the wing area.
The only air that hits the wing would be coming around the sides of the car.

the can also be used to attract homos
I thought it'd be more likely to attract dateless Commodore drivers?
Yeah thats what he said..... HOMO'S
nice!


but some commodores are respectable, i think the one you guys are referring to are the Commonwhores! the really old and very outdated ones.

Re: Racing Wings?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:36 pm
by Bennoz
Fully hektic VNs bro.