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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:51 pm
by JOeJOe
I8A4RE wrote:the_msta_chizz wrote:8u8813f1uff wrote:is there a big difference in gs...gr and gpx? which 1 is better? my fren told me he cbf telling me the diff between mivec and non mivec...he jsu said get gpx cause mivec = good
Your friend was correct.
The difference is a full 30kw extra between the non-mivec and actual mivec, and it's fully sik bro like a turbo that comes on at high RPMs.
Mivec = better.
What are you smoking crack???? 30kws what a load of sh*t. try 10kw IF THAT. Just cause they say it in a pretty little brochure dont make it true. There are lots of test been done between mivecs and non, manual and tips etc etc and never have i seen a 30kw difference. That means a stock gpx would be putting out around 120kw+............ I dont think so bro.
i think he's quoting at the flywheel, not the atw
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:13 pm
by Tippin
who uses at the flywheel these days ... i think he might have been mistaking hp for kw
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:24 pm
by I8A4RE
JOeJOe wrote:I8A4RE wrote:the_msta_chizz wrote:8u8813f1uff wrote:is there a big difference in gs...gr and gpx? which 1 is better? my fren told me he cbf telling me the diff between mivec and non mivec...he jsu said get gpx cause mivec = good
Your friend was correct.
The difference is a full 30kw extra between the non-mivec and actual mivec, and it's fully sik bro like a turbo that comes on at high RPMs.
Mivec = better.
What are you smoking crack???? 30kws what a load of sh*t. try 10kw IF THAT. Just cause they say it in a pretty little brochure dont make it true. There are lots of test been done between mivecs and non, manual and tips etc etc and never have i seen a 30kw difference. That means a stock gpx would be putting out around 120kw+............ I dont think so bro.
i think he's quoting at the flywheel, not the atw
that still doesnt make any difference............ unless he is comparing a gpx at the fly to a gr auto atw.
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:34 pm
by da_msta_chizz
I8A4RE wrote:What are you smoking crack???? 30kws what a load of sh*t. try 10kw IF THAT. Just cause they say it in a pretty little brochure dont make it true. There are lots of test been done between mivecs and non, manual and tips etc etc and never have i seen a 30kw difference. That means a stock gpx would be putting out around 120kw+............ I dont think so bro.
Mitsubishi FTO GPX - 147 kW @ 7,500 rpm
Mitsubishi FTO GR - 125 kW @ 7,000 rpm
Sources; Wikipedia, Fto.org, Myfto, Cars-Directory, Prestige Motorsport
last time i checked, if 5 completely different sources claim the exact same thing, it's generally true.
Engine output is used a LOT more often than wheel power.
sure, mivec might only make a 10kw difference at the wheels, but according to sources, it makes about a 22kw difference at the engine - this is with mitsubishi under-stating the engine like many other models.
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:50 pm
by I8A4RE
the_msta_chizz wrote:I8A4RE wrote:What are you smoking crack???? 30kws what a load of sh*t. try 10kw IF THAT. Just cause they say it in a pretty little brochure dont make it true. There are lots of test been done between mivecs and non, manual and tips etc etc and never have i seen a 30kw difference. That means a stock gpx would be putting out around 120kw+............ I dont think so bro.
Mitsubishi FTO GPX - 147 kW @ 7,500 rpm
Mitsubishi FTO GR - 125 kW @ 7,000 rpm
Sources; Wikipedia, Fto.org, Myfto, Cars-Directory, Prestige Motorsport
last time i checked, if 5 completely different sources claim the exact same thing, it's generally true.
Engine output is used a LOT more often than wheel power.
sure, mivec might only make a 10kw difference at the wheels, but according to sources, it makes about a 22kw difference at the engine - this is with mitsubishi under-stating the engine like many other models.
bahahahahahaha
So now your changing your story before you saying it was a 30kw difference now its 22 tomorrow its 15, then by saturday your right on the money, Mate i have driven a truck load of fto's mivec and non, auto and manual. and im telling you now there is now where near 30 kw difference between mivec and non. I dont care what your little websites tell you, join the real world and go out and experience the difference.
30kw gain is something you expect from a turbo install not from mivec. if i could get 30kw gain id just go and buy a mivec, hell of a lot cheaper than turbo'ing. Oh thats right i just did buy a mivec and its all hype.
Seriously who gives a f**k what a engine's output is, if it cant get it to the wheels then whats the point
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:29 pm
by da_msta_chizz
I8A4RE wrote:
bahahahahahaha
So now your changing your story before you saying it was a 30kw difference now its 22 tomorrow its 15, then by saturday your right on the money, Mate i have driven a truck load of fto's mivec and non, auto and manual. and im telling you now there is now where near 30 kw difference between mivec and non. I dont care what your little websites tell you, join the real world and go out and experience the difference.
30kw gain is something you expect from a turbo install not from mivec. if i could get 30kw gain id just go and buy a mivec, hell of a lot cheaper than turbo'ing. Oh thats right i just did buy a mivec and its all hype.
Seriously who gives a f*** what a engine's output is, if it cant get it to the wheels then whats the point
Engine output.
besides, an extra 10kw at the wheels at 500RPM higher is more than enough to warrant extra money.
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:14 am
by Tippin
the_msta_chizz wrote:I8A4RE wrote:
bahahahahahaha
So now your changing your story before you saying it was a 30kw difference now its 22 tomorrow its 15, then by saturday your right on the money, Mate i have driven a truck load of fto's mivec and non, auto and manual. and im telling you now there is now where near 30 kw difference between mivec and non. I dont care what your little websites tell you, join the real world and go out and experience the difference.
30kw gain is something you expect from a turbo install not from mivec. if i could get 30kw gain id just go and buy a mivec, hell of a lot cheaper than turbo'ing. Oh thats right i just did buy a mivec and its all hype.
Seriously who gives a f*** what a engine's output is, if it cant get it to the wheels then whats the point
Engine output.
besides, an extra 10kw at the wheels at 500RPM higher is more than enough to warrant extra money.
correction: 7500 rpm
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:46 am
by I8A4RE
tippin9 wrote:the_msta_chizz wrote:I8A4RE wrote:
bahahahahahaha
So now your changing your story before you saying it was a 30kw difference now its 22 tomorrow its 15, then by saturday your right on the money, Mate i have driven a truck load of fto's mivec and non, auto and manual. and im telling you now there is now where near 30 kw difference between mivec and non. I dont care what your little websites tell you, join the real world and go out and experience the difference.
30kw gain is something you expect from a turbo install not from mivec. if i could get 30kw gain id just go and buy a mivec, hell of a lot cheaper than turbo'ing. Oh thats right i just did buy a mivec and its all hype.
Seriously who gives a f*** what a engine's output is, if it cant get it to the wheels then whats the point
Engine output.
besides, an extra 10kw at the wheels at 500RPM higher is more than enough to warrant extra money.
correction: 7500 rpm
hahahaha 1 word........ OWNED

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:07 am
by da_msta_chizz
I8A4RE wrote:tippin9 wrote:the_msta_chizz wrote:I8A4RE wrote:
bahahahahahaha
So now your changing your story before you saying it was a 30kw difference now its 22 tomorrow its 15, then by saturday your right on the money, Mate i have driven a truck load of fto's mivec and non, auto and manual. and im telling you now there is now where near 30 kw difference between mivec and non. I dont care what your little websites tell you, join the real world and go out and experience the difference.
30kw gain is something you expect from a turbo install not from mivec. if i could get 30kw gain id just go and buy a mivec, hell of a lot cheaper than turbo'ing. Oh thats right i just did buy a mivec and its all hype.
Seriously who gives a f*** what a engine's output is, if it cant get it to the wheels then whats the point
Engine output.
besides, an extra 10kw at the wheels at 500RPM higher is more than enough to warrant extra money.
correction: 7500 rpm
hahahaha 1 word........ OWNED

Yeah..and 500 more than the non-mivec 7000RPM is..what exactly?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:54 am
by I8A4RE
oh im not laughing at whether tippin is correct or not im laughing at the fact that he's givin you sh*t lol.
Chill out man its all good fun, you made a comment that was totally BS now cop it on the chin, like a good little sailor should

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:25 pm
by dstocks
Never fails to amaze me how agressively you defend the GR

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:53 pm
by I8A4RE
dstocks wrote:Never fails to amaze me how agressively you defend the GR

arhhhh see thats where wrong.... i just love to give ppl sh*t.

Usually doesnt even matter if im right or not

.
Hey and i just realised im just gr owner anymore i drive my mivec everyday

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:01 pm
by nicholas
Ah Simon, always with an axe to grind
Unfortunately, the noob is right; there is a decent (20+) kw difference in power at the fly.
I've driven both GR and GPX (in manual) and IMO there is a big difference in power, but you're welcome to disagree

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:16 pm
by dstocks
Grabs coke and popcorn. Nicholas vs i8AFRE. This show should be worth watching

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:55 pm
by Ed_EViL
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:24 pm
by I8A4RE
OMG..... why bother

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:02 am
by Therapy02
I8A4RE wrote:OMG..... why bother

backing out already... soft
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:18 pm
by I8A4RE
Therapy02 wrote:I8A4RE wrote:OMG..... why bother

backing out already... soft
have you read the whole thread or just one post????\
Soft? you cant even make a statement one way your the other and your calling me soft
The reason why i sid "why bother" is because i have said it all in the previous posts so i would be just repeating myself
soft.....bahahahahha
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:01 pm
by Therapy02
I8A4RE wrote:Therapy02 wrote:I8A4RE wrote:OMG..... why bother

backing out already... soft
have you read the whole thread or just one post????\
Soft? you cant even make a statement one way your the other and your calling me soft
The reason why i sid "why bother" is because i have said it all in the previous posts so i would be just repeating myself
soft.....bahahahahha
hahahaha, amusing.. i think i took your side after "the_msta_chizz" thought that just cause he finds 5 sources it must be true, failing to realise the interwebs lies and they all probably originated from the same source which for all we know could have been a fat little 12 year old whose been playing too much NFS
that and the fact his "5" sources disproved his 30kw argument anyway.. i was just saying soft to see if i'd get a reaction

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:16 pm
by I8A4RE
Therapy02 wrote:I8A4RE wrote:Therapy02 wrote:I8A4RE wrote:OMG..... why bother

backing out already... soft
have you read the whole thread or just one post????\
Soft? you cant even make a statement one way your the other and your calling me soft
The reason why i sid "why bother" is because i have said it all in the previous posts so i would be just repeating myself
soft.....bahahahahha
hahahaha, amusing.. i think i took your side after "the_msta_chizz" thought that just cause he finds 5 sources it must be true, failing to realise the interwebs lies and they all probably originated from the same source which for all we know could have been a fat little 12 year old whose been playing too much NFS and that and the fact his "5" sources disproved his 30kw argument anyway..
bahahahah, exactly
i was just saying soft to see if i'd get a reaction


nice work