What Turbo?

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:04 pm

LOL those were the days when every skyline/commonwhore wanted to go me when i had my FTO. I dont get anything wanting a go now

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:07 am

Would this be suitable and a good buy. If not why?
Thanks Simon

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jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:04 am

tooo pricey bro

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:22 am

what about the specs on it though.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:58 am

reading with intrest these turbo threads...forget about the purchase of the turbo thats the easiests part of the deal.

first step is to go talk to someone who is going to build and install the setup, decide on your goal which in this case is really only 1 of 2 options.

a. High boost/power...then lets replace everything and at some point in the near future everything will break e.g engine, drive shafts, gear boxes, diffs...b. Low boost/power. Then you have a more managable approach.

I remember way back when Sam started his setup...and wanted a boost/power...just 5psi from memory...now look at him. The chase for power is quite addictive and you will do it, better to be realistic and plan upfront.

So what do you want? big power or respose ? If you want big power go wack a big tubro on it...if you want response then a small one like the GT28 mentioned would be ok.

Big HP figures tend to come at the expense of low down response, but the low down response is what you want when you want to get going on the street...

If I was serious about this, I would be looking into a 6A13 conversion upfront as you can fit the twin turbos in (1 or 2 people have done so) and get the best of both worlds...at would would seem roughly the same cost.

But then again I wouldnt be as it would be better to start from a better base i.e. a car setup for power. e.g. You can run 1.3bar though the stock internals of an Rb25 and make a good 280-300rwkw for the same dosh with less issues. You might not like the line then go for an older 180, s13/15 WRX or EVO for the same effect...a 180-200 atw 4wd car is pretty awsome to drive actually.

So in summary.

Step 1. Go talk to a workshop that is going to do the work. Someone who has lots of experience in engine conversions. If you like near Sam then his place would be an obvious first port of call.

Step 2. Agree on you application and power expectations. Design around this. But keep in mind once you have more power, there is a more than 75% chnace you will go for more...we have all been there and seen people do it.

Step 3. Dont purchase any parts form unknown e-bay sources and do it on the cheep. Buy known quality parts and pay a bit extra if necessary, if you cant afford this then dont do it.

Step 4. Budget for 20k+. By the time your done it will around this figure done properlly with all the supporting mods.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:15 am

I dont want big hp (seriuosly). i dont want to go as big as sam, jeff, adz, dannyboy, etc. Im wanting to go the path of redline, kermut, wildride etc. just 5 or 6 psi stock internals. But the most important thing is i want to keep the tip box or i might as well just go buy a factory turbo car. I have looked into a 6A13 conversion but just isnt the path i want to go. I aint HP hungry just want a little kick in the pants.

Oh and i am doing this, i aint just talking sh*t, but when i go talk to a tuner i want to know exactly what i am talking about but more importantly what he is talking about lol. That is why i am doing the research asking the questions cause i dont want to get half way through the project and go oh sh*t why did i not research that.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:56 am

Hey Simon,

If you're looking into places to do the conversion I was talking to these guys a little while back about it .. http://www.4wdworld.com.au/outlets/tuning/index.htm

He's said that he has done a turbo conversion for an FTO before, I don't think he was bullshitting, he knew all about the Mivec engine & problems that come up with turboing it etc. Basically told me not to do it - So .. i think that should give you an idea about his experience with them.. and also, shows that he's not like some other places that will just say "oh yeah, we can do that - easy as pie!" and then find out once you've already forked over 15k that they don't know what they're doing.

Anywho, 'tis worth going in & having a talk with them when you're getting into looking for a place to do it..

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:59 am

Yeah cheers man. Remember my engine isnt mivec he he. thanks forthe link

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:47 pm

I8AFRE wrote:I dont want big hp (seriuosly). i dont want to go as big as sam, jeff, adz, dannyboy, etc. Im wanting to go the path of redline, kermut, wildride etc. just 5 or 6 psi stock internals. But the most important thing is i want to keep the tip box or i might as well just go buy a factory turbo car. I have looked into a 6A13 conversion but just isnt the path i want to go. I aint HP hungry just want a little kick in the pants.

Oh and i am doing this, i aint just talking sh*t, but when i go talk to a tuner i want to know exactly what i am talking about but more importantly what he is talking about lol. That is why i am doing the research asking the questions cause i dont want to get half way through the project and go oh sh*t why did i not research that.

Just go find a decent workshop, go talk to them and see what they say and suggest. Then go to another to comapre. Just dont expect it to be cheap when done properly.

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:40 am

How about using my turbo from my GTA, mitsubishi used these turbos especailly for a Tip gearbox and spools faster which is great for an auto here are the specs.

Evolution 7 GTA
Turbo = TD05-15GK2-9.0T
Nozzle Area (cm2) = 9.0
Turbine = Inconel (steel alloy)
Compressor = Aluminium, 65mm wide

Wont be available right away but when it is i will be looking for around 450 for it

Post by **I8A4RE** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:20 pm

What does everyone think about this turbo ?????. Im going to talk to CES racing today about the project anyone heard anything about theses guys???

lokks like a good price. When abouts will it be ready Barfy?

barfy · Post by **barfy** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:37 pm

Late to mid jan, fingers crossed

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:41 pm

its marginally bigger than the TD04L

i recommened something like this...

maggsy · Post by **maggsy** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:36 pm

Post by **I8A4RE** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:11 pm

ok went and saw custom exhaust guy today he specialises in custom jobs and has plenty of photo's etc of turbo n/a cars. I have absolutly no doubt he can do the job as he said a lot of what we have talked about on this forum. Only problem is he is definitly a little pricey but i htink its probably worth it.

Mount turbo
Design & fabricate engine exhaust pipes
Modify Sump Aprox $1670

Silicon hoses and clamps $200

Oil and water lines $550

Exhaust system incl. Dump pipe flex & cat $1350

Intercooler pipes (mild steel) $740

Re assemble $680

Total $5190

Eamange, wirng, tune $2000

Grand Total $7190

This does not include turbo (buying sams

), intercooler, BOV, FPR. So what does everyone think.

I am very mechanically minded but have never dealt with turbo's before, is there anything that you reckon i could instead of them. The guy is extremely helpful said i can do as little or as much as i liked.

Ps Be nice and no spamming stay on topic please

thanks Simon

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:02 pm

cool stuff, shop around though ... talk to a few different places & suss out as much as you can about them ... as k if you can contact a few of their previous customers to find out how happy they are with the work ... i dunno if they would do it, but its worth a try

... & as I'm sure Sam would say "Take that price & Double it"

Seems a bit expensive, but as long as he's definitely gonna be able to do it - You might do well to check out the Honda forums & suss out some places that are experienced with VTEC YO!!!!! turbo installs.. Just a thought.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:08 pm

Yeah cheers.

You might do well to check out the Honda forums & suss out some places that are experienced with VTEC YO!!!!! turbo installs.. Just a thought.

I AINT GOT A MIVEC MINES A GR

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:16 pm

oil lines shouldnt cost you $550

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:28 pm

seems to be thought out. 10k all up including the turbo etc and it sounds about right to me.

Forget about saving a few bucks here and there, you want it done right. But I would go talk to someone else...now you have a list to work with.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:52 am

What do you guys think about this intercooler, its cheap hehe, only concern is this it says this in specs

Working Pressure: 10~25PSI

Im going to be running around 5psi will this matter??????

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