Nvr2lows 6a13 conversATION WITH BEN ABOUT HIS CONVERSION

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:19 pm

for fuks sake take off your map sensor! its redundant!

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:59 pm

jonowong wrote:for fuks sake take off your map sensor! its redundant!

WTF??

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:32 pm

what the hell do you mean

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:40 pm

I8A4RE wrote:
jonowong wrote:for fuks sake take off your map sensor! its redundant!
WTF??

redundant .. it means unnecessary

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:32 am

Not if he's using the factory computer. It has to stay.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:53 am

mr-charisma wrote:
I8A4RE wrote:
jonowong wrote:for fuks sake take off your map sensor! its redundant!
WTF??
redundant .. it means unnecessary

Are you serious?? I wasnt saying WTF to the word redundant you noob, i was saying it too why he thinks the MAP is redundant

Right now to the comment, what do you mean redundant? no matter what ecu your running, you need some sort of air reading sensor. So either maf or map. Why the hell would you ever swap from a map to a maf? You wouldnt. You would swap from a maf to a map (which is what i will be doing very soon).

Am i too tired and havent understood you correctly???

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:09 am

hey ben doesn't the 6a13 run a maf sensor anyways mate with their standard computer. If I keep the map sensor their does that mean I wouldn't have to run the maf sensor buddy. Would like to know abit for info on this please.

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:48 am

It runs a MAF and if you keep the factory computer it has to stay.

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:31 pm

ok thanks for clearing that up for me mate. Damn and I am trying not to put my battery in my boot as I have no room.

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:34 pm

nvr2low wrote:ok thanks for clearing that up for me mate. Damn and I am trying not to put my battery in my boot as I have no room.

No reason to keep it in the front as it's better to balance the weight albeit only a little bit more. Easy job to do too.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:47 pm

nvr2low wrote:ok thanks for clearing that up for me mate. Damn and I am trying not to put my battery in my boot as I have no room.

why do you have no room? too much sound equipment?

it is preferable to move it to the boot if you can..

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:05 pm

spot on micheal 2 12 inch subs in a custom box kinda make the finally decescion really hard i might sell my 2 and buy 1 big sub haha.i have found out u can have the maf sensor right were our old intake for the fto was and it will still work so custom piping might be the way to go

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:26 am

You are in the process of doing an involved engine conversion. AFAICS there is no option but moving the battery. If necessary, rebuild the sub box to also house the battery. There is no reason why you can't have a functional compartment built into the box for the bat

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:38 am

I will find a way to make it fit guys haha. I have to go put my aircon condensor back in today and mount the front mount. This is only if they are not working on it.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:41 am

FTEvolution wrote:AFAICS

???????????

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:49 am

A=As
F=Far
A=As
I=I
C=Can
S=See

I use others too, to keep you ladies on your toes

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:33 pm

was just trying make nvr2low panic!

i apologise

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Fri May 01, 2009 7:38 pm

hey dudes
exhaust YPIPE has been installed looks so sweet in black to bad that wil burn off very quickly.

i installed the aircon condenser back into the car and hooked up the fuel lines and the gear linkages. took front bar off ready for mounting intercooler on monday and doin the piping.

will be running 1.5 inch piping out of the turbos into a 2.5 inch pipe into the intercooler then 2.5 inch from intercooler to the throttle buddy. Going to be running a hks ssqv bov.

here is a pic of the rear turbo exhaust pipe not the best off my phone.
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Post by **vipfto** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:48 pm

looks like its coming together now mate

hopefully not too long before the tune

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Fri May 01, 2009 11:38 pm

nvr2low wrote: will be running 1.5 inch piping out of the turbos into a 2.5 inch pipe into the intercooler then 2.5 inch from intercooler to the throttle buddy. Going to be running a hks ssqv bov.

Mate, Sorry if I'm getting you wrong here, but the general idea with turbo's is that
Air goes from Air Filter into the turbo > From turbo to throttle body after being compressed > meeting up with air from the intercooler along the way to cool the hot (Compressed) air coming out of the turbo.. > Throttle body / manifold > then into the engine

So far what you've said is all good..

The exhaust being pushed out from the engine is directly proportional to the amount of air being pumped out of the turbo, into the engine, in turn that air then gets pumped out of the engine as exhaust, into the rear turbo housing, spinning the turbine that drives the compressor .. so you understand how it's a cycle..

Normally the exhaust will be 2.5" .. the air intake will be 2.5" - 3" and the throttle body 2.75"?? the throttle body will be the main detractor from the power.. What is the main reason they want to go 1.6" piping from the turbo's? Space limitiations, coupling limitations? etc?

Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure) but it seems to me, you don't want to go limiting the airflow being pumped out of the turbo to 1.5" as this is just going to reduce the amount of air that can be pumped into the engine, hence reducing the total power it can make (all things above considered)

IMO, if you do want to restrict the piping, or the airflow & affect the power, the place to do it would be at the air filter, before the MAF, so that the engine is getting the right readings of how much air is flowing in ..

***One thing I'm uncertain on, is whether this comes into play with compressor surge & redirection of pressurised air from the BOV .. I would assume that there would be more build up of pressure in the turbo if there is more air coming in than can be pumped out quickly enough.. and then if it doesn't pump out quickly enough to reach the BOV it has to go back into the compressor ( hell.. it might even be inconsequential given the small volume of air ..) as I've said someone correct me if I'm wrong ...**