ethanol

ali_boi · Post by **ali_boi** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:30 pm

hey is unleaded e-10 or ethanol fuel acceptable for FTOs?

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:34 pm

Considering Japans 'regular unleaded' is 98 ron (equivalent to our premium) then I'd call E10 a big no-no.

koolio1234 · Post by **koolio1234** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:41 pm

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

NO

hahahahahahahahahha

Anything less than 98 octane will be hurting your fto in the long term, even though some people say 95 octane is acceptable.

Post by **aza013** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:51 pm

E10 is a 91Ron fuel so I 2nd what Ben said

Astron_Boy · Post by **Astron_Boy** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:58 pm

Caltex is 95 ethanol, I use that for my sedan, but the FTO and wagon always get 98.

Tippin · Post by **Tippin** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:27 pm

I use it lol

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:32 pm

tippin9 wrote:I use it lol

Tightarse

Astron_Boy · Post by **Astron_Boy** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:40 pm

Bennoz wrote:
tippin9 wrote:I use it lol
Tightarse

haha, honestly, it does come down to that in the end... sure does for me

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:44 pm

Lol tippin I hope you're kidding!

Putting that sh*t in my car would be like be stabbing myself, I'd never do it and it would hurt me to no end to do so

I've never ever put non-premium in my car. I only did it once and that was only like $5 worth cos my car was just below a quarter tank and I didn't want it to go any lower in fuel otherwise it'd start sucking up all the sh*t sitting at the bottom of my fuel tank as it got closer to empty.

So $5 worth till I found a petrol station which had 98 ron =P

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:19 pm

Especially since recent studies have shown, that premium fuel will take you more kms than the equivalent amount of regular. Stop being tightarses, do the right thing by your car & you'll end up getting better mileage.

nicholas · Post by **nicholas** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:31 pm

Well almost, but it's not quite that simple.

You can still get a high RON even with ethanol; Ben don't you remember that V Power Racing (not made anymore) was 100 RON with a 5% ethanol blend?

Having said that, ethanol by volume has less chemical energy than petrol; which means that although it makes the fuel cheaper, you need more of it to go the same distance.

Long story short, stick to 100% petrol 98 RON fuels, you can't go wrong (BP Ultimate for me).

Tippin · Post by **Tippin** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:43 pm

Bennoz wrote:
tippin9 wrote:I use it lol
Tightarse

hahahaha hey im 17 years old, give me break

nah but honestly i didn't know it made such a difference for the fto (maybe i should read the manual one day)

i shall start using premium from now on

do u want me to drop in some octane booster tablets as well?

Post by **aza013** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:51 pm

nicholas wrote:You can still get a high RON even with ethanol; Ben don't you remember that V Power Racing (not made anymore) was 100 RON with a 5% ethanol blend?
.

I am one of the ppl to thank for that

that fuel stuffed so meany cars and bikes

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:54 pm

Hmm, no wonder BP ultimate gave me like 45 kms more out a tank than vortex.

Either that or once you start putting a certain type of fuel in your car (ie - if you always put in BP ultimate your car will get "used to it" and prefer it).

I noticed this cos BP ultimate always gives me the best economy.

Post by **Supplanter** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:46 am

I read a news article recently (I think it was also on Today Tonight, not that that proves anything) that in the long run E10 is more expensive to use than 95 anyway.

xSlurpee · Post by **xSlurpee** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:17 am

now where can i find octane booster?

J · Post by J » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:38 pm

Supplanter wrote:I read a news article recently (I think it was also on Today Tonight, not that that proves anything) that in the long run E10 is more expensive to use than 95 anyway.

Yeh it was on today tonight. Something about some petrols are better suited to different driving conditions eg. City driving and highway driving..

Post by **BorepYano** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:43 pm

i used to use a 98ron ethanol blend.. can't remember what the gas station was called anymore. running non stop it made no difference to performance nor milage, the problem i found with it is that it seems to evaporate faster while not being used. i.e. i used to drove like.. 150km a week max and with normal fuel i fill up once a month, but with ethanol blend i had to fill up once every 3 weeks or so.
but 1 week when i had to drive heaps and heaps, did the same k's on ethanol blend as i did with normal 98ron.
just my 2c

zuihoujueding · Post by **zuihoujueding** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:24 pm

xSlurpee wrote:now where can i find octane booster?

cost around $10-$20? but i would rather pump $10-$20 worth of quality fuels.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:56 pm

e10 is fine as long as the ron is =>98

I m tuning my other car for e85 and its making about 40 rwkw more now than the 100 ron tune/fuel I was using.....its friggen awsome.

The studies are all *~delightful!~*....