Bennoz Supercharged GR project

Post by **Bennoz** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:45 am

bigpitty1 wrote:Can't wait to see it finished, what type of ECU will you be using, stand alone or still sticking to a piggy back type.

Still going with a piggy back type. We are currently investigating an Autronic unit that looks like it will do the job:

http://www.autronic.com/page_files/sm4_kit.htm

mxysxy wrote:Ben,
I hope when you succesfully finished with this project, you will not tell me I cant copy it, because my engine is Mivec,
Do something that will help us all please

I see no reason why this couldnt be adapted to a mivec engine. The only differences will be the intake manifold (mivec itake is slightly different to non mivec) and the tune

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:40 pm

i dunno if this helps,
but autotronic is near finishing their piggy for the evoIX which has mivec...
the guy from autotronics frequent visit the evo forum and u can ask him questions too!

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:03 pm

Update!

Sizing has now finished & here is the final plan for the install:

We have flow tested the blower to find what direction the air from the blower is pushed. As you can see by the blue arrows, it comes out straight & left (primarily due to the V shaped outlet on the base of the unit.)

As such we are mounting the unit to the far right of the manifold. The manifold will then be cut with the curve up to the left. The left section will also have a plenum type air box incorporated into the design. This is all to ensure all cylinders a equally well fed.

This has also lead to the requirement of a longer snout on the blower (270mm from base of the plate to the end of the pulley.) Im having it made up this week.

The inlet opening will be plated off & a hole machined through the back of the blower - the TB will then be bolted directly over the hole.

As the shaft dictates the exact mounting position of the blower (due to the pulley line up with existing pulleys) once the snout extension gets down to the shop we enter the CAD (Computer Aided Drafting) phase. The inlet manifold as a whole will be drawn up, then fabrication will begin. Hopefully by end of next week

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:15 pm

nice ben!
looks like its gona be a monster !!!
cant wait to see it on the track when u're done!
love to see FTOs flying through laps at wakefield!

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:18 pm

Its gonna have a rather unique noise too! That high pitched blower 'whine'

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:05 am

Ben im so excited and jelous, u have done some awesome work and the fact your sharing all this knowledge with us is fantastic. Just a quick couple of questions, am right in believing that if i was to do this i could keep my tip box and do u know anyone up in gold coast/brisbane that i could talk to that would be able to tackle a task like this (thats if u dont wanna come up to gold coast for a semi vaction

, u could bring the car with u

its a nice drive lol)

Storm · Post by **Storm** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:03 pm

Ben, I am very jelous (sp) of this project but one thing springs to mind. Is there a specific reason you didn't want to make up an inlet manifold to let the blower sit right atop the engine? It would look so cool just sitting there between the banks.

Arashi

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:02 am

I8AFRE wrote:Ben im so excited and jelous, u have done some awesome work and the fact your sharing all this knowledge with us is fantastic. Just a quick couple of questions, am right in believing that if i was to do this i could keep my tip box and do u know anyone up in gold coast/brisbane that i could talk to that would be able to tackle a task like this (thats if u dont wanna come up to gold coast for a semi vaction , u could bring the car with u its a nice drive lol)

LOL

I cant see why you couldnt keep the tip box. Just need to ensure its in good nic & running the right oils.

I'd be talking to Jeff (who's got the 6A13 conversion up there) The workshop he had his done in folded in a very dodgy middle of the night manner, but he'd have to be going somewhere to get it tuned....

QLD has just about as many performance workshops as VIC does, just have a flick through the yellow pages & make some calls. Alternatively go out to some big horsepower meets... like a street meet at Willowbank or something.

If you can wait till early next year (when I plan to finish this) we should have the kit package available. All you need to do is find your own blower!

Storm wrote:Ben, I am very jelous (sp) of this project but one thing springs to mind. Is there a specific reason you didn't want to make up an inlet manifold to let the blower sit right atop the engine? It would look so cool just sitting there between the banks.

Arashi

Good question. The main reason we didn't go that way was again due to air flow. In order to spread the flow into all 6 cylinders equally from the small square outlet of the blower to 6 ports in the lower manifold, would have required quite a long manifold (height wise) and it would have pushed the blower well & truly out past the bonnet line....

I didn't fancy having a tower of steel hanging outta the bonnet. Especially when its sideways compared to a real V8 blower setup lol. Also the legalities that would involve getting round as well was a problem

If GM or Weiand made a blower like the V8 units that have the outlet side running the length of the motor, but smaller to suit say a 6A12, I would have bought one... but alas no such blower exists.

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:45 pm

i don't know why but i feel like this is a stupid question.. but i'm curious about it anyway.

would forged pistons and rods be needed to ensure a stronger and longer engine life..? i read somewhere a while back, when throwing in all that extra power it's recommended to have forged pistons and rods to keep the engine going without problems?

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:48 pm

Im only pumping in 5 pounds... not 25

boarsai · Post by **boarsai** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:30 pm

I have been wondering what to do to my car... (just bought an FTO) and you say you might have a kit available early next year? I'm going to have to start saving my pennies. This looks like just the ticket. Nice work.

You're going to have to upload some wav/mp3's of this engines purr (or whine as it were)

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:52 pm

Looks like this projects comming along nicely, cant wait for the results
If you need help making the hole for the supercharger, you could always try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrOghb3JbDA

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:54 am

G_A_V wrote:Looks like this projects comming along nicely, cant wait for the results
If you need help making the hole for the supercharger, you could always try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrOghb3JbDA

lol making a hole for the supercharger?
more like "supercharging" a hole in your manifold

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:24 pm

hey ben u havn't replied to my pm

so i'll just ask here, how's the project coming along

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:22 pm

No updates so far this year mate. Still waiting on my snout extension, but my brakes arrived today

So I have no money

lol

akuma3 · Post by **akuma3** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:28 am

and we need one for MIVEC too bennoz lol

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:44 pm

ah ok nvm then

hey btw, i remember u saying there maybe a need for a bonnet scoop, is that still the case? im assuming that's what u mean by "snout" (but i'm known to be a dumb ass so just asking to be sure)
cos im thinking about a fibreglass bonnet, but if it has to be modified than ill keep my stock one for now

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:48 pm

The aim is not to have any bonnet protrusions at all if possible!

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:09 pm

nice

just the answer i was hoping for

Post by **BorepYano** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:26 pm

sublime19 wrote:nice

just the answer i was hoping for

hold your horses subbie,

if possible

judging by how every single project i've read about on this forum... it seems nothing turns out as one planned lol