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Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:32 am
by silverGPX
Hi there,
Selling my Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers front and rear, it is my belief that these are non base height adjustable.
However you can really dump your car on these things.
Can't see any leaks, a few scuffs here in there but in good condition.
Looking at 470 + postage.
Located in qld.
Best to get these installed and setup by a suspension shop.
Re: Cusco Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:47 am
by Technikhaus
I would be tempted if it were not for requiring a Cert to get them installed
Re: Cusco Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:33 pm
by silverGPX
Also would like to say these are ONO.
But not after low balling..
Re: Cusco Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:59 pm
by bass_twitch
GLWS mate.
I found ebay was better for selling coilovers
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:50 pm
by bryan
silverGPX wrote:Hi there,
Selling my Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers front and rear, it is my belief that these are non base height adjustable.
However you can really dump your car on these things.
Can't see any leaks, a few scuffs here in there but in good condition.
Looking at 470 + postage.
Located in qld.
Best to get these installed and setup by a suspension shop.
maybe interested, how old are they?
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:17 pm
by fraz91
GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:22 pm
by bryan
fraz91 wrote:GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
im not too sure actually lol... couldn't find much information online.. are they really low?
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:28 pm
by destinationtoby
bryan wrote:fraz91 wrote:GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
im not too sure actually lol... couldn't find much information online.. are they really low?
I think he was talking to silverGPX
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:30 pm
by Vectose
bryan wrote:fraz91 wrote:GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
im not too sure actually lol... couldn't find much information online.. are they really low?
That was directed at SilverGPX, not yourself.
The concern is not about height with coilovers (as most are adjustable)
The concern is with the harshness of the ride with coilovers. I would not recommend coilovers for a daily drive. (Especially if the roads where you live are rough)
A set of KYB shocks and some lowered springs is the perfect balance between comfort and handling.
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:33 pm
by fraz91
bryan wrote:fraz91 wrote:GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
im not too sure actually lol... couldn't find much information online.. are they really low?
Coilovers are good because you can set the height of them yourself by either increasing or decreasing the pre-load on the spring, thus lifting or lowering the vehicle. Coil-overs that are body-adjustable as well are made to suit multiple vehicles, and as such the overall length should be adjusted to be the same as the OE struts/shocks.
The common misconception is that you wind the pre-load you want in, and then adjust the height through the body. The problem with this is that if you don't wind enough pre-load on, you'll be bottoming out the strut and giving yourself a really harsh and uncomfortable ride. What you need to do is adjust the body and overall length to be the same, and then adjust the height by moving the coil-seat up or down. If it's still too stiff after that, and there's no adjustment in the shocks themselves, then you need to look at using a coil with a lower spring rate.
edit- Coil-overs can provide a ride similarly comfortable to that of lowered coils with KYB's, as long as they're set up correctly. I know this, because I've done it to an S15 at work when changing one set of coil-overs to another and the originals weren't set up correctly.
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:37 pm
by bryan
Vectose wrote:bryan wrote:fraz91 wrote:GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
im not too sure actually lol... couldn't find much information online.. are they really low?
That was directed at SilverGPX, not yourself.
The concern is not about height with coilovers (as most are adjustable)
The concern is with the harshness of the ride with coilovers. I would not recommend coilovers for a daily drive. (Especially if the roads where you live are rough)
A set of KYB shocks and some lowered springs is the perfect balance between comfort and handling.
ahh i see...any kyb shocks and lowered springs would fit my FTO? my shocks may need replacing soon as over 140k without replacing (told by the mechanic). quoted 1000 just to change my shocks. i guess thats the market rate?
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:38 pm
by bryan
fraz91 wrote:bryan wrote:fraz91 wrote:GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
im not too sure actually lol... couldn't find much information online.. are they really low?
Coilovers are good because you can set the height of them yourself by either increasing or decreasing the pre-load on the spring, thus lifting or lowering the vehicle. Coil-overs that are body-adjustable as well are made to suit multiple vehicles, and as such the overall length should be adjusted to be the same as the OE struts/shocks.
The common misconception is that you wind the pre-load you want in, and then adjust the height through the body. The problem with this is that if you don't wind enough pre-load on, you'll be bottoming out the strut and giving yourself a really harsh and uncomfortable ride. What you need to do is adjust the body and overall length to be the same, and then adjust the height by moving the coil-seat up or down. If it's still too stiff after that, and there's no adjustment in the shocks themselves, then you need to look at using a coil with a lower spring rate.
edit- Coil-overs can provide a ride similarly comfortable to that of lowered coils with KYB's, as long as they're set up correctly. I know this, because I've done it to an S15 at work when changing one set of coil-overs to another and the originals weren't set up correctly.
damn sounds too complicated for me to handle...lol
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:44 pm
by Vectose
fraz91 wrote:bryan wrote:fraz91 wrote:GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
im not too sure actually lol... couldn't find much information online.. are they really low?
Coilovers are good because you can set the height of them yourself by either increasing or decreasing the pre-load on the spring, thus lifting or lowering the vehicle. Coil-overs that are body-adjustable as well are made to suit multiple vehicles, and as such the overall length should be adjusted to be the same as the OE struts/shocks.
The common misconception is that you wind the pre-load you want in, and then adjust the height through the body. The problem with this is that if you don't wind enough pre-load on, you'll be bottoming out the strut and giving yourself a really harsh and uncomfortable ride. What you need to do is adjust the body and overall length to be the same, and then adjust the height by moving the coil-seat up or down. If it's still too stiff after that, and there's no adjustment in the shocks themselves, then you need to look at using a coil with a lower spring rate.
edit- Coil-overs can provide a ride similarly comfortable to that of lowered coils with KYB's, as long as they're set up correctly. I know this, because I've done it to an S15 at work when changing one set of coil-overs to another and the originals weren't set up correctly.
So you are saying a set of coilovers with double the spring rate of lowered springs will have the same ride comfort?
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:50 pm
by destinationtoby
bryan wrote:
ahh i see...any kyb shocks and lowered springs would fit my FTO? my shocks may need replacing soon as over 140k without replacing (told by the mechanic). quoted 1000 just to change my shocks. i guess thats the market rate?
No u have to get the right part number for the shocks.
$1000 for 4 new shocks and fitted? Abit steep I think
U can order the kyb ones directly from them, forgotten what the prices are though
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:52 pm
by destinationtoby
Forsalethreadgonewild
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:01 pm
by fraz91
Vectose wrote:fraz91 wrote:bryan wrote:fraz91 wrote:GLWS mate.
You going back to standard lowered springs and struts?
im not too sure actually lol... couldn't find much information online.. are they really low?
Coil-over education blah blah
So you are saying a set of coilovers with double the spring rate of lowered springs will have the same ride comfort?
No, and that's the main reason people find coil-overs to be so harsh. Spring rate is relative to weight, so if you over-spring the vehicle then of course it's going to be uncomfortable. That's like using a heavy duty spring in a car with no weight, it'll ride like crap and skip all over the road.
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:05 pm
by Vectose
What spring rate would you recommend for an FTO then?
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:07 pm
by fraz91
Vectose wrote:What spring rate would you recommend for an FTO then?
To be honest, without testing a factory spring I'd have no idea. If people are happy with the Lovells spring rates then I'm sure I'd be able to "persuade" them to lend me one for testing.
Alternatively, contact lovells and ask them yourself, then just select the closest spring rate to that you want. Firmer if you want a sportier ride, softer if you're after comfort over handling.
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:13 pm
by Vectose
What would the advantage be with getting coilovers with similar spring rates to lowered springs? (Besides the obvious adjustability)
I have RSR Ti2000 springs and I am pretty happy with the ride. Spring rates are 3.3 front and 2.5 rear.
Stock spring rates are 2.6 front and 1.6 rear.
Compared to BC coilovers which are 7 front and 5 rear......
EDIT: And we should probably get a mod to move all this talk.
Re: Cusco Comp 2 Coilovers
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:19 pm
by fraz91
Vectose wrote:What would the advantage be with getting coilovers with similar spring rates to lowered springs? (Besides the obvious adjustability)
I have RSR Ti2000 springs and I am pretty happy with the ride. Spring rates are 3.3 front and 2.5 rear.
Stock spring rates are 2.6 front and 1.6 rear.
Compared to BC coilovers which aer 7 front and 5 rear......
EDIT: And we should probably get a mod to move all this talk.
Haha, yeah
With the BC's and other top-brand coilovers, you'll often find they run two coils on each strut. One is the high spring rate designed for handling and holding the height of the vehicle, the other is a much softer "damper spring" that sits between the coil seat and the heavy spring. The idea here is that the damper spring squashes up under the vehicle weight, but takes out a lot of the jarring and discomfort from the heavy springs, while the heavier spring supports the majority of the vehicle weight and gives it the performance you need. I know the HKS FTO has BC coilovers in it, and they don't ride too badly.
edit- Here's some on the ohlins shocks, they're the small blue coil under the yellow one